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If the Mariners don't win this series w/ Padres?


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If the Mariners don't win this series w/ Padres?
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Since:Sep 14, 2006

May 17, 2008 1:42 am
If the Mariners find some way to take sole possession of the cellar; the worst team in baseball, by losing to the woeful Padres...what should we do? 

Fire McLaren?  I don't know why it's taken so long already, but this needs to happen.  He's just a grumpy old man lost in a department store (who perhaps has crapped his pants).

Fire Bavasi?  Like McL
aren.  He almost singlehandedly made the Mariners the team they were in the 80's.  I'm surprised he didn't try to hire Harold Reynolds to replay for the M's. 

Move Batista to the bullpen?  Not sure he has much to offer their either...but the guy allows batters to hit over .300.  That's just unacceptable.  He has no good pitches, and isn't crafty enough to win.  Last year he threw some gems to go along with his stinkers, but this year...just stinkers. 

Move Clement back to AAA or trade him?  My opinion is, he needs to develope.  A rookie DH?  that's just stupid.  plus, he has less RBI's than three different pitchers on the Atlanta Braves (who combined have less at bats than Clement) PLus they pitch!!!!What else does Clement do, besides strike out?   Potential????Yes, but currently, he sucks.

Move Ichiro to cleanup?  He's the only guy trying (and even he takes at bats off).  Sexson shouldn't even be playing anymore.  Beltre tries to take the cover off the ball (but I'd be glad if he just made contact on his first swing, then whiff as big as he does).  Ibanez is good/great, but makes up for it with terrible fielding. 

Dump 'em all?  I can't believe this team can't produce.  I know that McLaren isn't a good manager, but even teams without leadership win sometimes (like the Lakers of last year).  Even though we have issues as a team, we shouldn't be the worst team in the league?  What gives?  

If the Mariners don't win this series w/ Padres?
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Since:Jan 1, 2007

May 17, 2008 11:58 am

You really hate Clement don't you...Give the kid a break....He is struggling yes, but really why should we send him back to AAA or trade him??  Yes, he is struggling (you have said that in 5 different posts).  First off, he shouldn't be our DH.  McLaren is a idiot and is making him hit DH.  All the pressure is on him getting out their and hitting.  He needs to be catching more and also should be getting starts at first base.  If you haven't noticed, the whole teams sucks just not clement.  Moving him back to AAA (where he has done all he should) isn't going to make the m's into a superteam all of the sudden.  

I agree with you on Miguel sucking.  It took him I believe 45 seconds to give up a run last night.  No joke either....the game started and 45 seconds later the Padres are on the board.  He can't find the strike zone anymore, it might be his time.  Also, your idea about Ichiro hitting cleanup isn't a bad one.  If only the M's had another speed threat to bat leadoff to replace Ichi.  I have seen batting practice where Ichiro unleashes the fury onto balls.  He can bring the power when he feels like it.

But, this is really sad.  I would have never of thought at this time the M's would be battleing for the worst record in the majors.  We suck, it is sad to look at the mlb standing and see how many teams and what teams are better than us. 


If the Mariners don't win this series w/ Padres?
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Since:Sep 14, 2006

May 17, 2008 12:47 pm
I never said I hated Clement.  He's big, imposing, has a good swing.  He just doesn't give us anything else right now.  He is being misused by McLaren, but from what I've heard, he's not much of a defensive asset (whereas Sexson is--and despite other posters Jojima as well).  If Clement could play OF, I'd gladly let him have Ibanez's spot, but that's like repairing a flat tire with a piece of duct tape.  Clement should be able to hit at some point.  But since he's been called up, we're like 2 - 12.  We were at least close to .500 with Vidro as DH (even with his sucky average). 

Besides Ibanez, we really don't have a legitimate DH.  Yet we let him (mis)play the field. 

Clement has an upside.  But he isn't the savior you all make him out to be.  He is remarkably a lot like the Frank Thomas you all were adamant we not sign.  Big, slow, no defensive abillity...on the upside Clement is young, so we have him for some time.  On the flip side, Thomas has proved he can hit at this league and would contribute immediately.  Cancer: maybe, but this team is already in need of chemotherapy.   We just need to treat the IBS, indigestion, schizophrenia, manic depression, and arthritis that is also plaguing this team. 

If the Mariners don't win this series w/ Padres?
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Since:Nov 13, 2007

May 17, 2008 1:44 pm
you guys are gonna be swept by my Padres

If the Mariners don't win this series w/ Padres?
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Reputation:96
Level:Superstar
Since:Mar 28, 2008

May 17, 2008 2:44 pm
No, we probably will win at least one. Beating Batista is a extremely common occurrence this year. Now you have to face Bedard and Hernandez back to back.  Facing the Padres offense, which is similarly anemic as the Mariners,  could be a confidence booster  needed for these two. Despite this, I wouldn't bet on the Mariners winning the next two anyways, this team just plain sucks. I also didn't mention that we will just miss Peavy, thank god.... 

If the Mariners don't win this series w/ Padres?
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Reputation:94
Level:All-Star
Since:Nov 10, 2006

May 17, 2008 8:31 pm

you keep making your point about sending Clement down to develop? he has nothing to develop down there except playing first base maybe, he will be 2 year straight all star has nothing left to prove..you still havent mentioned your solution in replacing Clement then, Vidro? Cairo? Bloomquist? I'd


If the Mariners don't win this series w/ Padres?
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Reputation:94
Level:All-Star
Since:Nov 10, 2006

May 17, 2008 8:31 pm

you keep making your point about sending Clement down to develop? he has nothing to develop down there except playing first base maybe, he will be 2 year straight all star has nothing left to prove..you still havent mentioned your solution in replacing Clement then, Vidro? Cairo? Bloomquist?


If the Mariners don't win this series w/ Padres?
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Reputation:94
Level:All-Star
Since:Nov 10, 2006

May 17, 2008 8:31 pm

you keep making your point about sending Clement down to develop? he has nothing to develop down there except playing first base maybe, he will be 2 year straight all star has nothing left to prove..you still havent mentioned your solution in replacing Clement then, Vidro? Cairo? Bloomquist? I'd agree


If the Mariners don't win this series w/ Padres?
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Reputation:94
Level:All-Star
Since:Nov 10, 2006

May 17, 2008 8:31 pm

you keep making your point about sending Clement down to develop? he has nothing to develop down there except playing first base maybe, he will be 2 year straight all star has nothing left to prove..you still havent mentioned your solution in replacing Clement then, Vidro? Cairo? Bloomquist? I'd agree if