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2002 AFC Championship Game?
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2002 AFC Championship Game?
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Reputation:96
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Since:Nov 13, 2007
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Why is the Rams Superbowl walkthrough a big deal, and the 2002 AFC Championship game barely even mentioned?
Wich, by the way was a 24-17 upset over the Pittsburgh Steelers, with the same cheating that they were concerned about against the Rams in the Superbowl.
If the NFL says this is no big deal, and they already knew, then I'd like to hear what Bill Cowher and the Steelers fans think. I am not a Steeler fan, but f any of you out there read this, tell me... what do you think of being cheated out of he '02 Superbowl berth?
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2002 AFC Championship Game?
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2002 AFC Championship Game?
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Since:Mar 10, 2008
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\. I am not a Steeler fan, but f any of you out there read this, tell me... what do you think of being cheated out of he '02 Superbowl berth?
got some evidence to back that up, Mr Walsh??
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2002 AFC Championship Game?
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2002 AFC Championship Game?
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Reputation:83
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Since:Nov 9, 2007
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Yeah, there is a tape of the Steelers ...read the article....
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2002 AFC Championship Game?
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2002 AFC Championship Game?
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Since:Nov 30, 2007
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I am a huuuuuuge Steelers fan and this bothers me a lot. Why does the league only care about the teams they might have cheated in a Super Bowl and not about the other teams they cheated along the way?? I think there is more to this, in fact I'm sure of it, I've been saying for years something was fishy about a team going from the worst in the league at 5-11 to suddenly the following year winning a Super Bowl and starting a dynasty, but I'm sure Goodell has already made sure he covered it up pretty good by destroying all the evidence, this is a joke and an outrage though, they should be stripped of any wins that they have factual evidence that they cheated and that should include last years game agains't the Jets, destroying their supposed "perfect" regular season.
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2002 AFC Championship Game?
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2002 AFC Championship Game?
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Reputation:96
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Since:Nov 7, 2006
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I am wondering if anyone has checked Mr. Walsh's offshore bank accounts to see if there have been any recent transactions from the Kraft or Belichick family. I agree with you ace about having all those games forfeited which would in turn cause for them to forfeit their Super Bowl win.
As an extra punishment, they should ban Belichick and force Tom Brady to play for Miami. Then not only would we all see he is only as good as the system and the Patriots would be screwed like how they screwed us NFL fans out of what we believed to be legitimate football.
And Patriots fans wonder why non Pats fans hate the team so much!
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2002 AFC Championship Game?
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Before everyone explodes - the cheating that is disclosed in these tapes is the SpyGate stuff that's been told over and over since September. During games they taped the opposing defensive signals and maybe they were able to use that to their advantage, but that was what they've admitted to and what they were fined for before..... the fact that one of the games was a playoff game doesn't make it any different (especially since they admitted to doing this is most of their games over that period of time). Yes they cheated, yes they really screwed up - but they've been penalized significantly by the league and that's in the books, so let this go and lay off of the Patriots as they've been punished enough for this....
What would have been different about the walkthrough is that a walkthrough is a closed practice where no Patriot employees should have been, and it is an event which would give a team the advantage of knowing what the overall plan for the game is (so they can plan ahead to counter it) and what the first few plays likely will be. Claims of this type of espionage have never been supported by any proof - not for the Rams Superbowl walkthrough, nor the AFC championship game, nor any other game. Until some proof shows up that indicates that they did cheat in this second fashion, nothing is going to change and there is no reason for a witchhunt now....
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2002 AFC Championship Game?
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2002 AFC Championship Game?
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Since:Dec 21, 2007
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What about the cheating the Steelers did in super bowl 40 , and all the cheating they did to get there. One can talk about the pats cheating to get to the superbowl 37 and all i have to say is the steelers did the same thing in 2006 with the officials. I believe if Carson Palmer wasnt tooken out of the game yall would have lost the first round. I'am not defending the Patriots but i am saying that the steelers fans have no room to talk about cheating in the super bowl.
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2002 AFC Championship Game?
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Since:Nov 6, 2007
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The Steelers did not cheat in SBXL. If the refs made some bad calls, its called part of the game!. Do you have any idea how many times the steelers have been screwed over by bad calls? How many times has your team been screwed by bad calls? That is not cheating, just bad judgement and eyesight from the refs. The steelers made one hell of a run to that superbowl!!!!!! dont be jealous.
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2002 AFC Championship Game?
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2002 AFC Championship Game?
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If anyone has actually followed the story, instead of just jumping on a bandwagon, they will know the tapes were not used during the games. The tapes video taped the coaches signals and then the play clock to capture what the situation was. It was then matched up to the game tape which is received by both teams after the game. This was usually done on Thursday or Friday after the game. It was never looked at in the game. There was also cheerleaders on the tapes as well. The video taping was not illegal, where they were standing was. And remember, the Jets were caught taping the Patriots in their playoff game 2 years ago.
I think it is hilarious how all the Steelers fans are saying there was something fishy because there was no way a team could go from 5-11 to winning Super Bowls. Upsets happen all the time. The Patriots first win over the Rams was an upset, but the Giants win over the Pats was an upset. Turnarounds happen all the time. The Steelers went 6-10 in 2003 and then went 15-1 in 2004. Was that cheating? No, it was the Steelers playing better football, except they lost in the AFC Championship game to the Pats. Except for the finish, this is pretty much the same thing the Patriots did in 2000 and 2001. They went 5-11 and only went 11-5 in 2001. After missing in 2002 with a 9-7 record they then went 14-2, 14-2, 10-6, 12-4 and 16-0. Maybe they got better after the 5-11 record as Tom Brady matured and learned the system, Belichick got more comfortable with his players and their drafts and free agent signings were tops in the league.
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