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Pau Gasol?
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Reputation:98
Level:Superstar
Since:Aug 21, 2006

May 7, 2008 11:24 am

First off...Kobe had a great season and is a great player, so I'm not hatin' on him or anything like that.

However, didn't the Lakers get SIGNIFICANTLY better once Gasol joined the team?  Someone feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, but my recollection is that they were a middle of the pack team in the West until the Gasol trade.  Then they exploded!  Seems to me that Gasol had as much...or more?...to do with their season success as Kobe.

I'd personally say that Lebron or Paul were more valuable to their team than Kobe, but I guess that's like saying a Bently is better than a Jaguar.  Kind of splitting hairs here. 


Pau Gasol?
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Reputation:94
Level:All-Star
Since:Feb 28, 2008

May 7, 2008 11:57 am
Ask for a correction and ye shall receive.  The Lakers were 1st in the west weeks before Pau Gasol arrived.  They had the best record in the west right around the time Andrew Bynum was injured.

Pau Gasol?
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Reputation:98
Level:Superstar
Since:Oct 4, 2006

May 7, 2008 12:40 pm

well your recollection is wrong.  before bynum went down, they were 27-11, they were 30-16 by the time Pau played his first game.if bynum never gets hurt, they probably would have one 57 games anyway. 

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Pau Gasol?
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Reputation:99
Level:Superstar
Since:Aug 22, 2006

May 7, 2008 1:00 pm

Correct you if you're wrong?  Ok..., I'll do just that.  Kobe led the Lakers to a record that was 15 games over .500 when Gasol arrived.  What WAS happening is the Lakers had Kobe and solid post play from Bynum and the rest of the Lakers stepped up.  When Bynum went down, they didn't miss a beat because Gasol filled the role of what Bynum was doing.  Now, yes they did get better because of Gasol but what team wouldn't??  He's an all-star for crying out loud.  People keep saying that like Gasol is the reason for the Lakers success though and that is total BS!  He is a great player and we cannot win the championship without him, but Kobe is the engine for the Lakers.  You're not hating?  That is exactly what it sounds like to me.  Don't dance around the topic, be real and say it.  You don't think Kobe is the MVP because you think Gasol made the Lakers and that Paul or James were more deserving.  Or has my reading comprehension failed me?  I am just glad people finally got it right.  Kobe was the best player in the league this year as he was last year.  His time was long overdue!

And yes...A Bentley IS better than a Jaguar.  Kobe is a Bentley azure convertible!


Pau Gasol?
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Reputation:94
Level:All-Star
Since:Apr 30, 2007

May 7, 2008 1:23 pm
No doubt even though it sounds crazy Gasol should have gotten the mvp over Kobe just because of the simple fact that the Lakers would be where they are without him. He is definitely more value to them then Kobe is and im not hating on Kobe either. My man CP3 is definitely the true mvp and he will prove it when we meet the Lakers for the Western Finals.

Pau Gasol?
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Reputation:95
Level:Superstar
Since:Feb 15, 2008

May 7, 2008 2:20 pm

Gasol more value to the Lakers than Kobe?  The Lakers were already on top of the west when Bynum got hurt.  So are we also saying Bynum has more value to the Lakers than Kobe. 

As we all know, MVP is not just about individual stats.  CP3 had one great season, good for him.  What Kobe has done and still does is not even close to CP3. 

Common people, stay away from crack

 


Pau Gasol?
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Reputation:95
Level:Superstar
Since:Mar 14, 2008

May 7, 2008 2:36 pm
How big was the rock he had to buy the voters for this hack job???


Pau Gasol?
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Reputation:95
Level:Superstar
Since:Mar 14, 2008

May 7, 2008 2:39 pm

Dang Jhawkr u got COOO RRRRREEEECCCCTTTTEEEDDDD  I wonder if they were all replying at the same time or just didn't read the rest of the comments???

Pau is a good player but not an MVP (just ask the Grizzlies) Kobe is deserving just maybe though Chris Paul a little more


Pau Gasol?
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Reputation:96
Level:Superstar
Since:Nov 11, 2006

May 7, 2008 3:18 pm
"However, didn't the Lakers get SIGNIFICANTLY better once Gasol joined the team?  Someone feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, but my recollection is that they were a middle of the pack team in the West until the Gasol trade.  Then they exploded!  Seems to me that Gasol had as much...or more?...to do with their season success as Kobe."

Of course the Lakers exploded after picking up Gasol.  They picked up an all-star at a need position for the two worst guys on their team plus draft picks.  Let's not forget the Lakers were still in the middle of the pack in the West because Kobe kept the team afloat after Bynum went down and Kwame was put in the middle.  Kwame Brown!

Just out of curiosity, what do you think would have happened to the Hornets if they picked up Kevin Martin for Rasual Butler, Ryan Bowen, and a couple draft picks?  They would have exploded, right?  It's a pointless exercise.

Should Paul be penalized since his team was relatively healthy this year?  He had a level of continuity Kobe never had with his teammates.  Bynum played 35 games, Gasol 27, Radmanovic 65, Ariza 25.  That's some key players missing a significant chunk of time.  How many significant injuries did Paul and the Hornets have to deal with?  And let's not forget Kobe was advised to have surgery on his finger and played through it at an MVP level.

I won't even offer much rebuttal to the James argument because it's so far out there.  LeBron James is a great player - incredible!  But he was nowhere near the MVP.  His team was 4th place in the mediocre East.  They gave up more points than they scored.  Being the best player on a below average team shouldn't get you consideration for the MVP.

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