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Kobe "given" MVP


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Kobe "given" MVP
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Reputation:86
Level:All-Star
Since:Jan 6, 2008

May 6, 2008 7:53 pm
Kobe getting this year's MVP is like Paul Newman getting the Academy Award for "The Color of Money".  Newman is a great actor- but "The Color of Money" is NO WAY his best movie (Cool Hand Luke, The Hustler, Nobody's Fool, etc) It was  a kind gesture to give it to Newman, just like this MVP to Kobe. Kobe is a great player, but how can you overlook Chris Paul? 2nd place as MVP to player on a team that he noticibly made better. Paul Gasol made LA better, not Kobe. Give me a break!

Kobe "given" MVP
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Reputation:63
Level:Pro
Since:Nov 25, 2007

May 6, 2008 8:09 pm
it is absolute robbery to give kobe this award. without Chris Paul the Hornets are an 8 seed and already bounced from the playoffs. chris paul made that team go and he hands down deserved this award. i don't care how young he is he mght never have another chance to win the award and the fact kobe won is appalling


Kobe "given" MVP
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Reputation:98
Level:Superstar
Since:Dec 2, 2006

May 6, 2008 8:51 pm
I'll have to agree with you kmplam....

I wrote this on another post:
I will not agree to the claim Kobe Bryant is overrated, however I did not agree with this selection.  Chris Paul fell victim to a legacy.  This season, Chris Paul did so much more for his team, and I'm sorry if that offends the countless Laker and Kobe lovers out there...

The MVP should go to the best player in the league for that given season.  After elevating his game, guiding a Hornets team that was horrible last season to the second best record in the Western Conference, and LEADING THE LEAGUE in assists and steals, he lost the award to somebody that previously averaged 40 points a night and supposedly "changed his game" to fit the triangle offense.  Kobe Bryant needs to let Pau Gasol babysit the MVP trophy every other weekend, because without Gasol I firmly believe LA would not have finished first in the West and Kobe would not have been given the credit for carrying this team. 

The issue of MVP is always debatable...

If you're a Kobe fan, stop calling people "haters" for having a different opinion provide some analysis to justify him as the Most Valuable Player for the 2008 NBA season... 

Kobe has definitely been one of the best in the league the last five to six years, but was he really the MOST VALUABLE THIS SEASON??  I just don't see it....  Chris Paul was astonishing this season.  LeBron James should get this award at some point in his career when he can get a team to play with heart for 82 games.  Kevin Garnett will  retire with a single MVP trophy in the case after losing this season...  Now the bigger picture is in sight, who will take the NBA FInals.   Thats more important than an MVP award to some people....  ******


This award was given to someone for a track-record...  It was supposed to be a single season award.  This is not sitting well with many, and for good reason.  Every year you're going to have controversy about the MVP Award, I feel guilty being a part of it this season. 

I question this:  If the Hornets would have finished First in the Western Conference, who would be the MVP then???

Thanks for reading, take care everybody

Kobe "given" MVP
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Reputation:98
Level:Superstar
Since:Jul 8, 2007

May 6, 2008 9:55 pm
kobe is an amazing player, so i have no problem with him winning mvp.

however, with 20 games left, despite being a huge Chris Paul fan, i knew for a fact that the mvp was going to be given to Kobe Bryant. i knew paul had no chance, no matter how highly people spoke of him and how he "deserved it".

kobe was a given.

Kobe "given" MVP
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Laker4Vida
Level:Amateur
Since:Dec 20, 2006
May 7, 2008 12:44 am
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Kobe "given" MVP
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Reputation:86
Level:All-Star
Since:Jan 6, 2008

May 7, 2008 1:46 am

Good point, you bring up Steve Nash. I'm a big Nash fan. Look at Nash's numbers the 2 years he won the MVP and look at Paul's this year--- Paul's are slightly better than Nash's. As for Paul just doing what he's supposed to; a 2nd year player doing what it took Nash as long to do as it did, Paul is even more deserving to win it.

Nash won it in 04-05 averaging 15.5 pts/11.5 assts/.8 steals and in 05-06 18.8pts/10.5assists/1 steal.

Paul averaged 21.1 pts/11.6 assists and 2.7 steals.  More points/assists/steals than the point guard who is the standard that everyone else is held up to these days.

Kobe avg 27.6 pts/6 assists/5.9 rebs in 04-05, 35.4 pts/4.5 assists/5.3 rebs in 05-06 the 2 years he lost to Nash; In 07-08 he put up 28.3 pts/5.4 assists/6.3 rebs- comparable numbers to the 2 years he lost the MVP to Nash; but still good numbers.

But you're a "Laker4life" and I don't know what I'm talking about. Right.

Ahhhh.... Los Angeles Laker fans, there is more to vida than sitting on the 405. Your egotism astounds me.


Kobe "given" MVP
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Reputation:77
Level:Pro
Since:Apr 7, 2008

May 7, 2008 5:30 am

If the MVP choice is between Steve Nash 04-05 versus Chris Paul 07-08, then you're right, Chris Paul should be MVP.

But that's not how they vote for MVP's right? So you're argument doesn't make sense.

Your twisted logic astounds me.

Guess what team averaged more assist this season, the Lakers or the Hornets? If you said the Hornets, you'd be wrong! Paul's assist numbers look great because he dominates the ball so much in the Hornets' system.  And more than a third of those assists are passes to Peja or Mo for a corner 3!


Kobe "given" MVP
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Reputation:86
Level:All-Star
Since:Jan 6, 2008

May 7, 2008 2:36 pm

My "twisted logic" as you call it brings into account that the criteria for choosing an MVP must have changed in the past 4 years. It was "given" to Kobe.

And if Chris Paul can assist Peja for the 3, well then CP3 sees the game extremely well and should be commended for creating the plays in the first place; helping his team win.  

I didn't ask for team with assists- you brought that up; notice that the team with more assists gave the ball to Kobe, (Kobe didn't create as many opportunities for others to shoot) Kobe took like 400 more shots than CP3 did and has a lower % rate. My point again- CP3 made his team and teammates better; Kobe is his team, Gasol made it better.


Kobe "given" MVP
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Reputation:85
Level:All-Star
Since:Dec 2, 2007

May 7, 2008 1:20 am
Bbowsh54, nobody fell victim to a legacy. Kobe's selection as the MVP was based purely on this season and what he did, not his past seasons. The Hornets were horrible last season because Peja was injured and Peterson wasn't there (I'm not sure about that, check me on when he got traded there). This season, Paul did improve but Peja also came back and West became an All-star. That alone can be attributed to the Hornets' rise. The Hornets being at the top of the West is just as surprising as the Lakers being up there. And also, if the Hornets finished first in the west AND Kobe didn't play with a torn ligament in his shooting hand.. then maybe Paul would have gotten the award. But that simply didn't happen. Kobe played the last half of the season on a finger that doctors recommended surgery for. He improved his teammates and made them all better, while keeping them in the race for the top seed all season long.