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Cry Baby or Not, This was Justified
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Cry Baby or Not, This was Justified
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Cry Baby or Not, This was Justified
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Reputation:95
Level:Superstar
Since:Nov 12, 2006
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Kobe matured this year. He made his teammates better and stayed within himself. When the Lakers needed him to step up his game, Kobe knew when to do it. No longer the selfish spoiled rich kid. A team player. Undoubtably the best player in the NBA this year. Keep it up Kobe. Haters will always keep on hating, use it to your advantage. Thank You All Kobe Haters.
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Cry Baby or Not, This was Justified
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Cry Baby or Not, This was Justified
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Reputation:94
Level:All-Star
Since:Jan 20, 2008
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I don't care his actions etc and his attitude, but statistically he doesn't deserve the MVP award. He hasn't made a bigger contribution on the offensive or defensive side of the ball than Chris Paul or LeBron James, or been the key difference in helping his team win more games than previously:
These are the stats taken from the last week of the regular season:
On offense:
CP3: 21.2ppg + 11.5apg @ 2ppa = 44.2 total per game
King: 30.2 ppg + 7.3 apg @ 2ppa = 44.8 total per game
Kobe: 28.6 ppg + 5.4 apg @ 2ppa = 39.4 total per game
On defense:
Chris Paul: 2.7 steals per game but 0.0 blocks per game (when rounded) - total 2.7
LeBron: 1.8 steals per game but 1.1 blocks per game - total 2.9
Kobe: 1.9 steals per game and 0.5 blocks per game - total 2.4
Kobe clearly trails in both categories, and he also plays on a team with other very good players (imagine what CP3 or LeBron could do with Gasol and Bynum on their team). He hasn't made a bigger individual contribution than either of the other two nor made his teammates better as much as they have. He may have "matured" in your eyes - but how do you measure maturity??
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Cry Baby or Not, This was Justified
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Cry Baby or Not, This was Justified
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Reputation:83
Level:All-Star
Since:Dec 10, 2007
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You are splitting hairs here guy. You are obviously anti-kOBE. Any of the three players you mentioned deserved it and you can add Kevin Garnett to your list too. Kobe winning MVP is not outrageous, he deserved it. I would have been ok with CP3 or KIng as well. If you watch Kobe game in and game out, the only way you would be upset for the choice of MVP being Kobe is if you are jealous that it didn't go to your guy.
Please examine your real motives. It is not like they gave it to Gilbert Arenas who was out the entire year with an injury.
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Cry Baby or Not, This was Justified
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Cry Baby or Not, This was Justified
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Reputation:94
Level:All-Star
Since:Jan 20, 2008
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I never said it would be outrageous if Kobe won - read my post before you criticise statements that don't exist.
Living in LA (I'm a Warriors fan though) means I've seen Kobe a fair bit this year, but I was never as impressed by his performances as I was with LeBron's or Chris Paul's. It doesn't make me anti-Kobe - opposing him on the basis that he was a Lakers player or an alleged rapist would be, but not statistics.
I just proved that Kobe is not the statistical choice for MVP - that is motive enough to criticise choosing the guy. Don't go searching for alternative motives and false arguments just because I don't agree with your point of view. In fact, as far as I can see you have offered very little in the way of an argument why Kobe should be MVP but have instead largely filled your posts with superfluous criticism of haters. Shouting people down doesn't work on the internet because everybody can see the lack of logic in your argument.
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Cry Baby or Not, This was Justified
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Cry Baby or Not, This was Justified
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Reputation:94
Level:All-Star
Since:Aug 22, 2006
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Backing up your argument with stats like blocks per game and steals per game is absolutely ludicrous. You can be a terrible defender who takes a lot of risks to get a bunch of steals in a game. How many steals per game does Bruce Bowen get? Does that make Bowen a bad defender? Or you can be like Marcus Camby and get your blocks off easy help D when your teammates force the opponent into the lane. The MVP award goes well beyond statistics, it's about how well you make your teammates around you, how cohesive you make your team. The obvious choice this year is Kobe Bryant. Chris Paul played great, so did Garnett, but nobody did more this year than Kobe Bryant.
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Cry Baby or Not, This was Justified
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Cry Baby or Not, This was Justified
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Reputation:94
Level:All-Star
Since:Aug 22, 2006
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Not to mention assists per game is the most flawed stat in the history of professional sports.
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Cry Baby or Not, This was Justified
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Cry Baby or Not, This was Justified
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Reputation:94
Level:All-Star
Since:Mar 9, 2007
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KG has won an MVP and Lebron and CP3 will eventually win the MVP award as well. If your using the old stat thing as the basis as your argument the Kobe should of won it years ago. Its a league mostly built on reputation and and for somereason the league felt "comfortable" enough to give Kobe the award this year
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Cry Baby or Not, This was Justified
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Cry Baby or Not, This was Justified
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Reputation:94
Level:All-Star
Since:Jan 20, 2008
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VCarter,
I accept the flaw in the assists category but I am only using the stats available to me. There is unlikely to be a vast difference between the assists coefficient of the three candidates - at a guess, Chris Paul's might be slightly lower because his assists are into the paint (ie for 2 pt baskets) rather than to the outside, having driven to the basket (ie for 3 pt baskets)
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Cry Baby or Not, This was Justified
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Cry Baby or Not, This was Justified
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Reputation:99
Level:Superstar
Since:Dec 3, 2006
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You are splitting hairs here guy. You are obviously anti-kOBE.
Pontstreet, just because he doesn't agree with you doesn't make him anti-Kobe. Any one of the three, as well as Kevin Garnett would have been good picks. He just backs up with statistics as to why HE feels Chris Paul deserved it MORE. He didn't say Kobe wasn't deserving, he just said CP3 was MORE deserving.
Typical Kobe/Lakers fan. If people don't see things your way, their hating on you. Give it a rest.
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