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I'll try to break this down one way and see if it works or if anyone has another way that works better...
SPs: Wang, Beckett, Dice-K, Kazmir, Holiday (if he counts) v.s. J. Santana, T. Hudson, Hamels, Smoltz, and a few others that can win about 13-16 games each (O. Perez, T. Glavine, Maine, Kendrick, and S. Olsen) --- edge to NL East
Bullpen: All of the teams throughout have questionable bullpens, so we'll look at the closers. M. Rivera, Papelbon, Percival, and whoever Toronto has out there v.s. Wagner, Lidge/Gordon, Gregg, C. Cordero, Soriano --- edge to NL East
1B --- Giambi, Youkilis, C. Pena, Huff, Overbay v.s. Howard, Delgado, Teixeira, M. Jacobs, and D. Young/N. Johnson --- edge to NL East
2B --- Cano, Pedroia, Iwamura, Roberts, and A. Hill v.s. Utley, L. Castillo, Uggla, Belliard, and K. Johnson --- about even because Belliard sucks and nullifies having 2 of the best.
SS --- do I need to go further than J. Reyes, Rollins, and Hanley. We can even throw in Y. Escobar.
3B --- A-Rod, Lowell, Rolen, warm body in Tampa, and Mora v.s. D. Wright, P. Feliz, Zimmerman, Cantu, Chipper --- very close...best player in AL East puts them over, but depth belongs to NL East
OF --- Manny, Matsui, B. Abreu, Ellsbury, Drew, Melky, B. Upton, Crawford, Damon, Gomes, Markakis, Rios, V. Wells, and others v.s. Beltran, Francoeur, Willingham, Alou, Burrell, Victorino, Hermida, Church, Milledge, W. Pena, Dukes/Kearns, Jenkins, and others --- close, but goes to AL East because of the young multi talented OFs.
C --- Posada, Veritek, Navarro, Zaughn, and Hernandez v.s. McCann, Schneider, LoDuca, Rableo, and C. Ruiz --- edge to AL East
DH --- who cares? They're defensive liabilities when they have to play a position anyhow.
Overall, I say NL East.
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SPs: Wang, Beckett, Dice-K, Kazmir, Holiday (if he counts) v.s. J. Santana, T. Hudson, Hamels, Smoltz, and a few others that can win about 13-16 games each (O. Perez, T. Glavine, Maine, Kendrick, and S. Olsen) --- edge to NL East
Edge - AL EAST, not even close........Wang, Beckett, Dice K, Kazmir, Halladay, Burnett all 20+ winners in the NL...........O.Perez, Glavine, Kendrick, Scott Olsen???....If you could list them, we could list the likes of Guthrie, Mussina, Wakefield, Mcgowan (better than all mentioned in the NL), etc.etc.etc.etc.etc.
Bullpen: All of the teams throughout have questionable bullpens, so we'll look at the closers. M. Rivera, Papelbon, Percival, and whoever Toronto has out there v.s. Wagner, Lidge/Gordon, Gregg, C. Cordero, Soriano --- edge to NL East
Edge - AL EAST, not even close.......Im not sure if youre actually serious about this or not.......Jeremy Accardo, the guy you didnt mention may be better than every closer you mentioned in the NL East.........Rivera/Papelbon/Sherrill/Percival/A
ccardo (Ryan)....Youre kidding right? Wagner? Lidge Gordon (LOL), Gregg?.....I like Soriano and Cordero
1B --- Giambi, Youkilis, C. Pena, Huff, Overbay v.s. Howard, Delgado, Teixeira, M. Jacobs, and D. Young/N. Johnson --- edge to NL East
Agreed, ONLY because of Tex and Howard, noone else noteworthy
2B --- Cano, Pedroia, Iwamura, Roberts, and A. Hill v.s. Utley, L. Castillo, Uggla, Belliard, and K. Johnson --- about even because Belliard sucks and nullifies having 2 of the best.
Ill agree on this......Although as far as balance, the AL East is very solid accross the board, the NL is Utley and Uggla and a rising star in Johnson, Castillo and Belliard not worthy of conversation
SS - Agreed 100%, obviously
3B --- A-Rod, Lowell, Rolen, warm body in Tampa, and Mora v.s. D. Wright, P. Feliz, Zimmerman, Cantu, Chipper --- very close...best player in AL East puts them over, but depth belongs to NL East
Wright, Zimmerman, Chipper make this close.....The other 2 guys could be released tomorrow and noone would notice
OF --- Manny, Matsui, B. Abreu, Ellsbury, Drew, Melky, B. Upton, Crawford, Damon, Gomes, Markakis, Rios, V. Wells, and others v.s. Beltran, Francoeur, Willingham, Alou, Burrell, Victorino, Hermida, Church, Milledge, W. Pena, Dukes/Kearns, Jenkins, and others --- close, but goes to AL East because of the young multi talented OFs.
NOT EVEN CLOSE..............The stars in the NL OF.....Beltran, Francoeur....THATS IT!......Willingham leads the second tier but doesnt produce on the second tier like an Abreau, Matsui.....The stars in the AL East OF.....Manny, Upton, Crawford, Rios, Markakis, Wells........Not Even close
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Wow, so much is wrong with dirts analysis.
1B --- Giambi, Youkilis, C. Pena, Huff, Overbay v.s. Howard, Delgado, Teixeira, M. Jacobs, and D. Young/N. Johnson --- edge to NL East
Agreed, ONLY because of Tex and Howard, noone else noteworthy
Only cuz Howard and Tex are noteworthy, none of those AL 1Bs are good, cept Pena with his career year last year.
SPs: Wang, Beckett, Dice-K, Kazmir, Holiday (if he counts) v.s. J. Santana, T. Hudson, Hamels, Smoltz, and a few others that can win about 13-16 games each (O. Perez, T. Glavine, Maine, Kendrick, and S. Olsen) --- edge to NL East
Edge - AL EAST, not even close........Wang, Beckett, Dice K, Kazmir, Halladay, Burnett all 20+ winners in the NL...........O.Perez, Glavine, Kendrick, Scott Olsen???....If you could list them, we could list the likes of Guthrie, Mussina, Wakefield, Mcgowan (better than all mentioned in the NL), etc.etc.etc.etc.etc.
How you gonna mention the AL Easts top pitchers then mention the secon tier NL East guys a declare it a win for the AL? You fail to mention the BEST pitcher in baseball, Johan Santana. All-Star rotations turn out to be Beckett, Halladay, Kazmir, Wang, Burnett vs. Santana, Hamels, Hudson, Smoltz, and Maine/Myers, eade NL.
more later i have class lol
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more later i have class lol
I gotcha covered. 
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SPs: Wang, Beckett, Dice-K, Kazmir, Holiday (if he counts) v.s. J. Santana, T. Hudson, Hamels, Smoltz, and a few others that can win about 13-16 games each (O. Perez, T. Glavine, Maine, Kendrick, and S. Olsen) --- edge to NL East
Edge - AL EAST, not even close........Wang, Beckett, Dice K, Kazmir, Halladay, Burnett all 20+ winners in the NL...........O.Perez, Glavine, Kendrick, Scott Olsen???....If you could list them, we could list the likes of Guthrie, Mussina, Wakefield, Mcgowan (better than all mentioned in the NL), etc.etc.etc.etc.etc.
Okay, so a rotation of Beckett, Wang, Dice-K, Kazmir, and Halladay beats a rotation of Santana, Hamels, Smoltz, Hudson, Myers. This is a tie at best.
Bullpen: All of the teams throughout have questionable bullpens, so we'll look at the closers. M. Rivera, Papelbon, Percival, and whoever Toronto has out there v.s. Wagner, Lidge/Gordon, Gregg, C. Cordero, Soriano --- edge to NL East
Edge - AL EAST, not even close.......Im not sure if youre actually serious about this or not.......Jeremy Accardo, the guy you didnt mention may be better than every closer you mentioned in the NL East.........Rivera/Papelbon/Sherrill/Percival/A
ccardo (Ryan)....Youre kidding right? Wagner? Lidge Gordon (LOL), Gregg?.....I like Soriano and Cordero
OK, this one goes to the AL East, but not by as much as you thing. Wagner and Soriano are both nice closers(Wagner more than Soriano)
1B --- Giambi, Youkilis, C. Pena, Huff, Overbay v.s. Howard, Delgado, Teixeira, M. Jacobs, and D. Young/N. Johnson --- edge to NL East
Agreed, ONLY because of Tex and Howard, noone else noteworthy
And Pena is the ONLY good 1B in the AL East.
2B --- Cano, Pedroia, Iwamura, Roberts, and A. Hill v.s. Utley, L. Castillo, Uggla, Belliard, and K. Johnson --- about even because Belliard sucks and nullifies having 2 of the best.
Ill agree on this......Although as far as balance, the AL East is very solid accross the board, the NL is Utley and Uggla and a rising star in Johnson, Castillo and Belliard not worthy of conversation
No objection.
SS - Agreed 100%, obviously
3B --- A-Rod, Lowell, Rolen, warm body in Tampa, and Mora v.s. D. Wright, P. Feliz, Zimmerman, Cantu, Chipper --- very close...best player in AL East puts them over, but depth belongs to NL East
Wright, Zimmerman, Chipper make this close.....The other 2 guys could be released tomorrow and noone would notice
Yeah, this one goes to the East. PH understated this one. A-rod is great, but Lowell is a huge step down from him, and everyone else in the AL-E is at best average.
OF --- Manny, Matsui, B. Abreu, Ellsbury, Drew, Melky, B. Upton, Crawford, Damon, Gomes, Markakis, Rios, V. Wells, and others v.s. Beltran, Francoeur, Willingham, Alou, Burrell, Victorino, Hermida, Church, Milledge, W. Pena, Dukes/Kearns, Jenkins, and others --- close, but goes to AL East because of the young multi talented OFs.
NOT EVEN CLOSE..............The stars in the NL OF.....Beltran, Francoeur....THATS IT!......Willingham leads the second tier but doesnt produce on the second tier like an Abreau, Matsui.....The stars in the AL East OF.....Manny, Upton, Crawford, Rios, Markakis, Wells........Not Even close
Hard to argue this one. NL-E doesn't have that much in the OF.
Seriously, the NL-E is better than the AL-E by a solid margin.
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Seriously, the NL-E is better than the AL-E by a solid margin
Youre a funny guy worthy of 5 stars from me...
You agreed with about 95% of what I said and than finish with the above statement?
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14 Straight, Youre arguing with me but let me be honest...
I think the Braves win the East............I think the have the MOST underrated lineup in all of baseball....I think Soriano will be the very BEST closer in the East.......I think Smoltz injury obviously a concern but I like Jurgens, Hampton on a bounce back, Smoltz and Hudson....Stop YELLING AT ME!
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