Expectations for '08

I think we can have a good year as well.  We signed a couple of pretty nice Freshmen RB as well.  I'm intersted how they might pan out in the next couple of years.  And I also like the Juco rout we took.  These guys have been in the trenches a little more than if Freshmen were coming in they are hungery and you know most of those JUCO players were studs in High shcool and just couldn't get the ACT score so as long as they can keep there grades up we should be alright. 

In my opinion I wouldn't want to recruit Freshmen O-line or D-line it makes sence to me to get them from JUCO because they have developed into more mature men by the time we get them.  We should get out skill players as freshmen because they need more time to learn the system, good O-linemen can pick this stuff up quick.

The best hope for KSU in these JUCO signings is that they can insert them into the Oline and Dline and Linebacker. The immiedate problems associated with JUCOs are that they have been playing JUCO ball for 2 years. They are then recruited and jump to the Big12 level of play, which is a considerable jump in size, speed, game play, etc. You have to give them at least until Dec of that first season before they are even up to speed. By then, confidence could be shattered, or steeled, and players might be dropping with academics too. Who knows, thats why they play the game.

KSU might be taking a huge risk in the long term too. With so many recruits being JUCOs now, in two years, they will have a 10 man or under junior class. Not good. That will demand them to have another big JUCO signing or play underclassmen heavily. Both signify given the keys over to underexperienced players. Prince is taking a huge risk with obvious potentials both negative and positive. For KSU fans, and for his job, he better hope it works out. I wonder if the athletic department will go for another sub bowl season. But they might. I think regardless of what happens next year, they will allow him to at least have 09. then, Four years worth of him will be enough to judge if he has done anything.

Rockchawk

What is the big deal? Don't be concerned about Juco players.  Snyder was huge into recruiting Juco players.  He had more Juco players than freshmen most of the time anyway.  The speed isn't that much different for the good Juco player 4 star and 5 star players even 3 star players.  These guys were recruited as Freshmen but maybe couldn't get the ACT score or grades needed to go D-1.  They have the skills and now more knowledge tham most in coming freshmen or sophmores already there.  I have no problem with getting Juco players.  Hey if we are a JUCO pipe line I'm fine with that.  I'm willing to bet that if we can have a Junior college all star team we will be pretty good.

9 wins is absolutely ludicrous. Maybe its because there are not that many posters here, but my God men, diversify your thoughts!

Do you realize that last year, your defense gave up more points per game since 1989! Do you know the last time it was near that bad. 04!! When this team started going down hill. The D has not, and until it proves other wise, will not be better. A shock of JUCO recruits who werent smart enough to get into D 1 college in the first place (but they know more about football, trust me ... right) are all of a sudden going to 1) prove to be all american players on defense in a scheme that we cant play and 2) not fail out of school and lose eligibilty? Jeez, you guys dont even consider anything that goes under the "non optimist" view.

Listen, Fresno St and Louisville. You remember those games from last year and two years ago boys? wow. They were class A wuppings. And now, in the beginning of the season, you expect these superhero JUCOs to come in and wall up a horrendous defense but that is completely unrealistic. KSU could very well be 2-2 going into conference play against one of the most prolific offenses in the nation. Yea that will look grreat. Im sure those JUCOs have seen a whole lot of 5000 yd Graham Harrel passers and spread offenses in their day. The Big12 is loaded with the best QBs in the nation, along with some of the most prolific offenses in NCAA history. Two Heisman candidates ARE IN YOUR SAME DIVISION!! But youre right, KSU just got a bunch of JUCOs. They will be fine.