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Since:Feb 2, 2007

July 2, 2008 3:35 pm

The debating skills seemed to lacking on his side of the debate. I think he repeated himself more than anything. I'mnot going to watch it again to find out.

Side note, you think we can get Orton or Wall?


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July 2, 2008 4:13 pm
Side note, you think we can get Orton or Wall?I'd say there's a 60-65% chance we get Orton.

10-15% chance we get Wall.

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July 2, 2008 4:25 pm

Interesting video.

I would have a few comments.  The only thing that seemed slightly hard to grasp for me was the intervals between two times being infinite.  In fact there should be an infinite amount of space between two objects because there would always be a point somewhere in between.  However there are plenty of experts in the field now who don't think there is such a thing as time.  I wouldn't lean one way or another until we have a clear majority.  And I have heard an explanation that two objects (matter) never actually do touch.  It may seem that way because we can't see in the smallest incriments.  It may seem like I am physically touching the keyboard when in fact I am feeling the forces which attract or repel.  You actually are levetating when you sit on your couch.

If you think your body is a solid or even a rock is a solid you might be surprised to know that every moment there are particles traveling right through you without ever touching anything.  If I am correct that is how an x-ray works.  The Sun emits particles that go right through the Earth.

As far as the end of times.  I just read last night that the universe is expected to keep expanding and dissipating it's energy all the while approaching absolute zero in temperature but never quite reaching it.  How is that for infinite?

There was nothing in what the author of that video was saying that PROVED God existed or what God is like.  That author has ascribed some attributes to God that nobody can know/proove and then tried to reverse psychology his way into making it seem like he just prooved something.  Give me a break.  I did enjoy his philosophical approach but he didn't prove anything.  Even if he did prove matter or the universe can't be infinite (which he didn't) it would not prove that God exists and has the attributes that this guy claimed.  It's completely faulty logic.  I get a little bit tired of people telling me what my God (if God exists) is like, or what She wants me to do.

It did give me something to think about though.  Again, I am not maintaining that God doesn't exist just that there is NO way to prove it or to prove what God is like.  The end proof for Christianity as the answer to which God is it was horribly lacking any type of logical composition.  If the Bible is good at prediction (and therfore of God) then I guess Nostradamus and Casey (as well as a hoard of others) are in fact Gods themselves.  I doubt any of you believe that.

Have a fun and safe weekend!  I'm out.

 


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July 2, 2008 7:20 pm

cher,

For those of us still learning will you explain this for me......

 just read last night that the universe is expected to keep expanding and dissipating it's energy all the while approaching absolute zero in temperature but never quite reaching it.  How is that for infinite?

If it is approaching how does it never arrive?

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July 2, 2008 10:37 pm
Katsfan:
I enjoyed the video. These are very similar sentiments to past posts I've made regarding our trying to explain an infinite concept (the spirit) in finite terms. It closely reflects my thoughts on time. Time does not exist in the presence of God as we will see when our bodies die away. I prefer to think time was invented by God to mark and measure our lives and times in the finite realm because there is a beginning and end to be measured. Our bodies stand six feet tall and we live 100 years - both beginning and end.

Before Abraham was, I AM!

Did God limit our existence in order to encourage (force) us to choose between good and evil without taking "forever"?

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July 2, 2008 10:54 pm
Isn't what we call "absolute zero" the theoretical freezing point of Helium? Our science has not been able to achieve this feat - although they have come close. There could be unknown elements out there in the universe with lower freezing points for all we know. I still see the scenario in Cher's post as finite.

Have you ever dreamed that you were looking at a human cell through an electron microscope? OK I haven't either, but if I did I would be rationally and logically analyzing human life, and forming scientific conclusions, in my infinite wisdom, about a dream, a thought, a figment of my imagination, an idea with no substance. I would be sure I was right because it would all seem so very real...

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