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Official Penguins vs. Red Wings Thread


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Since:Apr 15, 2008

June 4, 2008 3:28 am
I have heard a lot of people on here nailing theirien and crosby for complianing about calls and saying that babcok doesnt' do that and he is so much more classy because of it etc etc and that the pens are babies for complaining.  I was wondering if anyone caught the remarks from Mike Babcock today.  He basically even said he was getting up on the soap box to talk about something than continued on to say how the refs did a bad job and that they made horrible calls etc.  and than took a little dig at therien to make himself look better when asked about if he was going to talk to nhl officials about his complaints he said i just did i just figured I'd do it through you guys like that other guy has all series.  I respect babcock and think he is a great coach but the little dig at therien was really out of character for him.  Not to mention complaining about the officials he claims the dissapointment is gone from game five but I think it really got under his skin.  I wasn't trying to start a major problem but just thought it was funny considering how many people jumped on therien and crosby (although I haven't heard him complain that much at all) when they said anything

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June 4, 2008 3:40 am
and just thought I'd throw one more out there before bed.  I know its frustrating when it seems your team is dominating but doesn't win.  I'll agree that it seems that the wings have dominated play at times.  Especially in the first two games when the pens looked disinterested in playing (not taking anything away from the wings).  But through the other three games there have been times where both teams have controlled play hence why they were close games.  I know people are going to jump on me about this and say I'm out of my mind and site the SOG stat as domination but its not always about SOG.  I know that if you shoot the puck more than you usually score more.  But the pens have gotten out shot all season long.  I mean we beat the Flyers with only 15 shots on goal.  Its more of a style thing the wings shoot the puck from where ever and the pens look for the perfect play and pass a little too much at times but thats what they do.  they both have played dominating at times and the stats (besides SOG which we all know doesn't decide games goals do) like faceoffs, etc, are pretty even (although the faceoffs are pretty much the most surprising) which supports both teams controlling play at times.  So don't get to frustrated wings fans you guys will still probably win but as a hockey fan these teams IMO are pretty evenly matched when they both show up to play so I'm hoping for a pens win in 6 obviously because I'm a pens fan but also because I am not ready for hockey season to end I want one more game after tonight. 

Official Penguins vs. Red Wings Thread
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June 4, 2008 5:33 am
Well pgh, i would say not calling something for over 1500 games and then calling it twice in overtime in the stanley cup finals is being pretty inconsistent.
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bowyerpa, I'd call it selective memory.


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June 4, 2008 6:04 am

Is anybody else annoyed with Piere McGuire between the benches?

Yeah....the coaches. :)...Everytime he interviews them, they have a look on thier faces like they want to check Pierre into the boards....lol


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June 4, 2008 7:18 am

Pgh -- I think you hit the nail on the head, particularly with the interference penalties. As in any sport, many of these calls rely solely on the judgment of the official making the call. That kind of judgment is subjective. And the rules are set up to rely on that judgment.

That is what allows a fan from one team to say, "Hooray, officials!" to a specific call, while a fan from another team wants to murder the official for making that same call. And the fan's interpretation most often boils down to whether the call gives there team an advantage, unless it is so egregious or so obvious, no disagreement is possible (e.g., the Hudler high stick in Game Five). That's just human nature.

And as we've seen in this series, there have been disagreements even among the officials on some calls. That makes them look REALLY good! Looking at it this way. the NHL definitely has some work to do.

That's not even to mention penalties that fans "see" and officials "miss," either because they weren't "on the scene," or because they decided to let players "play on" without making the call. Again, consistency is key, and fans will be the first ones to jump on this.

It's like the old saw about how 12 different people at an accident scene or crime scene give 12 different descriptions/stories of what happened and/or what they saw. A different story is almost inevitable.

Just about 12 hours 'til game time now. Tonight's colossal collision should be great!

 

GO, Red Wings!!


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June 4, 2008 7:22 am
12 hrs and 39 minutes til the game...lets go Red Wings

Official Penguins vs.d Wings Thread