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Are the Mets the biggest under-achievers?


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Are the Mets the biggest under-achievers?
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May 15, 2008 5:08 pm

As a long suffering Mets fan, I think this team is a bunch of hacks - what do you think?

Are the Mets the biggest under-achievers in baseball?

 

 

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May 15, 2008 5:24 pm
Yes, BUT much of it is misfortune.  They basically have a 3 man rotation they're working with, if not 2 1/2 men given how inconsistent Perez has been.  That's a big part of their problem.  The other part is that their bullpen is picking up where it left off last year.  Heilman should have been traded long ago when people actually thought he might be good.  Now they won't get anything for him.  They might want to capitalize on Pelfrey's performance today and trade him too while they can still get something for him.  He won't ever amount to anything.  The Met's bats are also sucking so far, but that kind of stuff is cyclical.  They will pick it up, though Delgado probably needs to be dealt.

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May 15, 2008 6:21 pm
I think Ryan Howard takes the cake all by himself as the biggest underachiever in baseball. Last year I could see why he struggled early, since he was hurt. What's his excuse this year?


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May 15, 2008 6:24 pm
Hell yeah, plain and simple they only have 3 people that have respectable batting averages on this team in Alou,Church, and Schenider and Alou has only been here for like a week and the other two werent even on the team last year. Everybody on the team except for those 3 and John Maine and Johan have got to start picking it up or else this is going to get very ugly.

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May 15, 2008 6:31 pm

Based on payroll alone the answer has to be no as the Yankees are the biggest underachieving team in baseball, the difference is the Yankees will likely turn things around (much like last year) while hope for the Mets offense is not very bright. Even if Church does keep it up, Alou and Delgado are offensive and defensive liabilities at this point and Reyes and Beltran just both seem to lack any fire, not sure Beltran ever had it, but maybe Reyes gets it back. It just seems like since Sept, even a one run deficit seems impossible to overcome, I went from believing in the offense, to rooting for the offense, to having complete confidence that the offense will not get it done.

You guys are being WAY to hard on the pitching, esp the starters, Vargas and Pelfrey both deserved wins for their efforts the past two days, and while the middle relief (re:Heilman) has been spotty, Wagner has been awesome, its the inability to get key hits that has this team barely above .500.


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May 15, 2008 7:00 pm
I dont think the Mets are underachieving...I just don't think they are that good.  .500 Team since last June 1.  Thats almost a year of mediocre baseball...thats not underachieving...thats being what they are...GO Phillies BACK TO BACK NL EAST CHAMPS> and Howard is in a huge slump, but he'll come out and end up hitting 260 with 45 homers and 125 rbi's-not too bad of a slump. 

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May 16, 2008 7:28 am

I'm not so sure about the Yankees being the biggest underachievers - lets look at the facts:

  1. Even with A-Rod back, it would not solve the existent Yankees problems at hand
  2. the problem is with the pitching
  3. Lets take a look at their rotation:
  • Chien-Ming Wang: 6-1, 2.90 ERA - no problems here
  • Andy Pettitte: 3-4, 4.40 ERA - growing concern over whether he'll be reliable, aging quickly, scouts took notice of it rather quickly
  • Mike Mussina: 6-3, 3.99 ERA - can the moose run this well throughout the rest of the season? Many think not
  • Darrell Rasner: 2-0, 3.00 ERA - it could be a matter of time before opponents figure him out
  • Ian Kennedy: 0-3, 8.48 ERA - this could be a looong season...
  • Phil Hughes (DL): 0-4, 9.00 ERA - this has gotten ugly from the start, added injury to insult
  • Kei Igawa (back to AAA): 0-1, 18.00 ERA - Ugh, nothing has changed...
  • Joba Chamberlain (set-up man): 1-2, 2.60 ERA - 1st start: TBA

The Mets have just gotten into a rough patch, but should be out of it soon. Pedro Martinez is on the DL, the bullpen has been in a slump (see Aaron Heilman) and many things have happened out of bad luck. They'll rebound once everything comes back into place. If Claudio Vargas fails in the no. 5 spot, expect Ruddy Lugo to be called up - he's been starting with the New Orleans Zephyrs, posting a sparkling 2.70 ERA, 33Ks in 40 innings, 10 BBs, .242 OPP AVG


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May 16, 2008 8:46 am

"Ryan Howard takes the cake all by himself as the biggest underachiever in baseball"

 

Really!!! You must be joking,,,,,,Even with his struggles and our MVP out for a month we STILL are playing better than you.....Mets have no excuses.....especially after signing Santana, they HAD to get him because of they way they finished last year, and it still doesnt matter.


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