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Ravens' Suggs to be designated as franchise defen


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Ravens' Suggs to be designated as franchise defen
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May 13, 2008 6:18 pm
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It looks like the league created a new position in franchise designations -- a defensive end-linebacker.

Hopefully they can come to an agreement on a long term deal.

Suggs a franchise defensive end-linebacker
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May 13, 2008 6:19 pm
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May 13, 2008 6:53 pm
Thats sic.  I wonder how other players are going to react to this.

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May 13, 2008 11:50 pm

Hes really starting to sicken me. Everybody knows the Ravens D-line and Ray Lewis make the linebackers better than what they are. He wouldnt be the same player without the organization. He did nothing last year, he cant split double teams,

Id rather see us trade him for some linemen.


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May 14, 2008 4:26 am

Sicken you?  What is he doing that sickens you?  The fact that the Ravens stiffed him out of $800,000 and he took offense to that?  The fact that he made an extra effort to attend voluntary mini camp meetings when no one expected him to?  The fact that he is not at the required mini camp when he doesn't even have a contract with the Ravens?

I honestly can't see what you are seeing that inspires illness.


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May 14, 2008 8:36 am

Illness isnt inspired.

Since when are outside linebackers who can pass-rushing called defensive ends? Is Kamerion Wimbley a defensive end in the Browns? is Mike Vrable a defensive end? whatever. Its the skipping camp because you want an extra 800k on top of the 8million of unearned money that SICKENS ME. Get 8 sacks at least, this system is a pass-rushers dream.

Send him off to some other team and see him crash and burn like our other exports. At least we'll get a first rounder and a few other pics.


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May 14, 2008 9:25 am
I don't think he is allowed by the NFL to attend camp yet... but Terrell Suggs has attended all the voluntary camps held so far, and has repeatedly stated his interest in staying with the Ravens in the future.

Sure, it seems kind of dumb that he is filing a grievance against the Ravens for only (haha only... if I had a salary of that much...) $800K, but think about it this way:
The top paid DE in the league, Jared Allen, makes over $12 million a year.
The top paid LB (I think its Ray Lewis) makes $8.4 million.

If Suggs settles for the designation of LB for this year, while it will only cost him $800k this year, in the future when he signs a new contract, that team will point to his LB designation and give him a salary accordingly. This could, therefore, cost him around $4 million dollars a year in salary- considerably more than just the $800k.

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May 14, 2008 9:26 am
It is a designation for players who play both positions. like suggs, wimbley, DeMarcus Ware, merriman, etc.  Players who on one play are in a 4 point stance, and the next play are upright as a LB.  I dont understand why you guys have a problem with this.  Plenty of players refuse to sign the one year tender when they are franchised, like Shaun Alexander, until they have some guarantee or some leverage.  Suggs hasnt done that because he wants to be on good terms with haurbaugh and ozzie, and he knows he will get his money.

Because of the debate over his designation, the two sides were unable to negotiate on a long term deal.  I have no doubt they will successfully work out a deal.

And for all those knocking suggs production last year, i will say this.  Any pass rusher can be stopped without a good pass rusher on the other side.  Once Pryce went down with that injury, it wasnt likely suggs would have a good year.  So its not really his fault.  He gave it his all, and he is up there among the players with the most sacks ever in his first 4 years.  Plus he is only 25.  So give him some slack....

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May 14, 2008 9:33 am
That is awesome.  I'm glad they met in the middle to make both sides happy instead of having a winner and a loser.  Now we can put this behind us and Suggs can start hitting the practice field.

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May 14, 2008 9:35 am
Since when are outside linebackers who can pass-rushing called defensive ends?

When they line up in a 4-point stance on the line.  The Ravens admitted using Suggs as a DE about half the time.