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Since:Jan 3, 2008

May 8, 2008 11:06 pm

Auburn and Arkansas (Badger wins) and Tennessee (Badger loss).

No slouches there, I think you'd agree, unless of course they were slouches, which destroys your argument about the SEC depth. Which is it?


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Since:Jan 17, 2007

May 9, 2008 9:15 am
Well here is my big problem with Dodd's list.  It is not the fact that he has OSU making it to the championship game...they probably will.  Why?  Because they play one...Let me repeat ONE game this year that is going to be a tough test...road or otherwise.  They do return all of those wonderful Big Ten starters that will probably win the league again.  My problem lies in the fact that they were picked as a Number One.  We all know that OSU's rightful spot is NUMBER TWO!!!! They will make the Championship and get blasted by another SEC school (if we dont kill each other).  So Dodd do the right thing and put the heavyweights where they should be.  Either UGA or Florida are the best teams in the country, regardless of schedules.  OSU will make a nice whipping boy for someone in January!

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May 9, 2008 9:34 am

OrangeHater

  yep, if some SEC team beats OSU for the 2008 make-believe, pretend, opinionated, voted,  fantasyland, mythical, so called ' national championship' then the SEC will have tied the B10 in BCS era bowls.......14 -14


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May 9, 2008 10:16 am

Couldn't agree more. And the obvious home field advantage of playing the games in the SEC backyards is something these cornpones never bring up, do they? And even with that, all they can manage is to break even.

That's why it would be great to have a playoff where some of the games actually could be played in the upper Midwest in November or December. But you know the good old boys in the South would NEVER agree to that, they actually might see a snowflake or two and refuse to come out of the locker room.


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May 9, 2008 10:19 am
So let the southern boys come up to a neutral Midwest site to play in December or January then, outside. If they can beat OSU in their home area, then you prove your point, otherwise it's the same old home field advantage that you Southerners never want to talk about.

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Since:Dec 12, 2007

May 9, 2008 12:32 pm

Okay  WISCGC...    I'll bite on this one...

I love how everyone wants to compare their conference's bowl record to the SEC's.  There's little wonder it's roughly even. 

The SEC ROUTINELY gets 8, 9, or 10 teams into bowls each year, often with 2 teams playing in BCS bowls.  Other conferences generally get 3, 4, or 5...  So, last year was a case in point...

BCS     LSU (SEC #1) OSU (Big Ten #1), Sugar - Georgia #2 vs. Hawaii WAC #1, Tenn #4 vs. Wisconsin #3, Kentucky SEC #7 vs. FSU ACC #4, Miss St SEC #8 vs. UCF C-USA #1, Cotton - Arkansas SEC #6 vs. Mizzou Big 12 #2, Chik-Fil-A - Auburn SEC #5 vs. ACC #3...

So Mizzou blasted Arkansas...  Well I would hope that the 2nd best team from a 12-team conference should do pretty well against our SIXTH BEST TEAM!!!  Auburn (#5) played arguably the 2nd best team in the ACC.  Miss St beat a conference champ...

So, these other conferences put up their best teams against our mediocre ones, and want to claim a grand victory because they beat an SEC team?  What other conferences #6, 7, 8, 9 even get sniffed by the bowls?  I rest my case.


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Since:Sep 8, 2006

May 9, 2008 2:15 pm

POOR big ten fans, they know me over at the main board as the GUY who beats down OSU fans and big ten fans with facts.

1. big ten teams dont' come south in september so your point is mute

2. 1980 to 1989 SEC 10-2 over the  big ten head to head in bowls

3. 1990 to 1999 SEC 10-6 over the big ten head to head in bowls

4. 2000 to now SEC 12 and big ten 10 head to head in bowls

 Do you see the OVERALL pattern, not some selective number pattern like since the bcs started bs. So bowl games head to head since 1980, SEC 32-19. Now run along

Add in nonconference regular season games and the SEC is 49-27 over the big ten since 1980 heads up with bowl games included.


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May 9, 2008 2:36 pm

OK, Croomed, these are good points. But you are still not explaining the SEC lack of superiority over the Big Ten in BCS-era bowl games. Maybe you can beat up on other conferences to make yourselves look good, but the fact remains the SEC (other than the title game, I'll give you that) is about even with the Big Ten, not superior as all you good ole boys like to say over and over and over and over....

And to answer your last question "What other conferences #6, 7, 8, 9 even get sniffed by the bowls?"

Try the Big Ten, who routinely get 7-8 teams into bowl games each year, usually with 2-3 of those in BCS games.

If you don't believe me, look it up. Google is a wonderful thing.


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Since:Sep 28, 2007

May 9, 2008 2:45 pm

1. big ten teams dont' come south in september so your point is mute

Firstly, I can't believe you used the correct phrase "point is mute", most people say "point is moot".  My guess is you screwed up so badly that you actually got it right.

Secondly, I'd like you to retract the above statement in public.

2007 Illinois in St. Louis (Sept 1)

2003 Illinois in St. Louis (Oct 30)

2002 Illinois in St. Louis (Oct 31)

2002 Illinois in Hattiesburg (Sept 7)

2004 Indiana in Lexington (Sept 18)

2002 Indiana in Lexington (Sept 14)

2001 Indiana in Raleigh (Sept 6)

2000 Indiana in Lexington. (Sept 16)

WRONG AGAIN, UNFACTUAL MAN.

Those are just the first 2 teams I looked at, too.


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May 9, 2008 3:01 pm