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Charlie Weis
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May 8, 2008 2:04 pm

So Charlie is making news again in South Bend. I guess at the Blue-Gold spring game he said "To Hell With Michigan" saying that they will use the fact that they are learning a new system and everything when they lose, and that he would never blame anyone but himself. Now that is true, this year during a 3-9 season for the Irish after every game Weis only blamed himself saying he didnt have the team prepared to play. But I dont know if I would go taking shots at a coach who you have never coached against, especially when it is a big rivalry game. If they dont win in September he will have a little bit of egg on his face. Here is a link to where I read the story.

http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080508/SPORTS06/80507085/104
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Please dont turn this into a bash ND threat and say they need to just join a conference and they they suck and blah blah blah, if you want to do that, start another thread and I will see you in there. 

But let me know what you guys think. Why do you think Weis is saying all of these things, such as the recruiting thugs, and now this with the Michigan comment.


Charlie Weis
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May 8, 2008 2:10 pm

Personally, I think he is being stupid. If I was him, I would go visit Tom Brady and maybe ask for a serving of that humble pie. After the worst season in Irish history, I think he should just be quiet, go about his business and if the team plays better, and if they brought a NC to South Bend then he could talk crap. But until then, I wish he would just keep his mouth shut.

 


Charlie Weis
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May 8, 2008 2:11 pm
Because, despite the fact that he pays lip-service to "blaming himself" after games, he is trying his best to deflect the blame away from himself for a truly horrible ND team last year.

Charlie Weis
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May 8, 2008 2:32 pm
Because, despite the fact that he pays lip-service to "blaming himself" after games, he is trying his best to deflect the blame away from himself for a truly horrible ND team last year. Im not a ND hater or lover, but Charlie is one of those rare coaches that takes full blame regardless of the outcome. He is just stating his feelings about another school while remaining on the fence. No real story here.

Charlie Weis - Put up Ws or shut up.
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May 8, 2008 2:37 pm
The AD Kevin White has probably told Weis he has to put up numbers or he is headed off campus. This guy has never been threatened in a position before and his defense mechanism for his insecurity is dumb bluster.

Charlie Weis
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May 8, 2008 2:37 pm
Personally I think that giving credit to the other team is the classy thing to do.  For instance, Jim Tressel, never any excuses, never any "we beat ourselves, we messed up."  Always gives credit to the other team for being good/playing well, etc.

Charlie Weis
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May 8, 2008 2:38 pm
You can't sit there and say Weis never blames anyone else... Just last week wasn't he blaming the fact that he can't recruit "thugs." Or something on that side of ridiculous.

Charlie Weis
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May 8, 2008 2:43 pm
But he will never blame his beloved cheeseburgers.  Charlie needs to come up with excuses for why his genius offense is getting soundly thrashed.  Remember his Xs and Os advantage?  he he

Charlie Weis
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May 8, 2008 3:11 pm
You can't sit there and say Weis never blames anyone else... Just last week wasn't he blaming the fact that he can't recruit "thugs." Or something on that side of ridiculous

Derekross,

I think you might be taking what he said about the thugs a little out of context. I dont really remember the article but I dont think he was blaming him losing on that. But that is just my opinion.


Charlie Weis
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May 8, 2008 3:51 pm

As a UofM fan I can't see giving the opposition bulletin board material. I know he wants to fire up the home crowd and make a statement, but it would be wise to avoid giving a team any reason to get up for a game.

Let the players do the talking. You think Weiss would be pissed if Claussen made the statement... We will kick USC overrated A$$. My guess is he would.

Weiss is coaching for his job, heat is on Domers do not stand for consecutive losing seasons. I think maybe Charlie is feeling the pressure and looking for anyway to gain support from the alums.


Charlie Weis
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May 8, 2008 4:03 pm

Chucky is a joke of a coach.  When he was winning (albeit only against weak teams) with Ty's experienced players he was taking credit for his coaching genius.  Three years in he was getting his butt handed to him and he basically pinned the blame on Ty's "poor recruiting".  Weis just isn't a good head coach and he isn't good at developing talent.

And taking shots at Michigan for making excuses, when they haven't made excuses is classless.  Especially since it's far from a lock that ND will win the game.  I'll be rooting for Michigan to win that game, just so I can hear reporters ask Chucky about his "excuses" comments.


Charlie Weis
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May 8, 2008 4:25 pm

My admittedly uninformed take:

(1) Quotes get taken out of context.  Ever since the days of the Spanish-American War, yellow journalism has been the driving force behind media profits.  Unbiased, nuanced reports of complicated situations put people to sleep.  Out-of-context sound bites have led to the creation of a half dozen cable news networks and the dilution of meaningful media analysis.

(2) Weis should know all of this, and he should keep his mouth shut. 

(3) I don't think the man's used to being held accountable for the ramifications of his blabber.  Belicheck had the spotlight in New England, and the collective Notre Dame fan base was so enamored of his hiring and bringing the Irish to a BCS bowl that they largely overlooked any possible personal infelicities he may have. 

Let your team's performance do the talking, Charlie. 


Charlie Weis
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May 8, 2008 4:49 pm
Chucky is a joke of a coach.  When he was winning (albeit only against weak teams) with Ty's experienced players he was taking credit for his coaching genius.  Three years in he was getting his butt handed to him and he basically pinned the blame on Ty's "poor recruiting".  Weis just isn't a good head coach and he isn't good at developing talent

Like I said in the first post I think I wrote please dont turn this into a ND bashing thread. I guess that was a little too hard for you. The fact is Weis took a team that was 6-6 and turned them into a 9-3 and a 10-3 team. So that is pretty good if you ask me. I would like to see what he can do with this young talent. 1 bad year doesnt mean he cant develop talent. You sit there and say that ND was playing only weak teams and Weis was getting all of the credit. Well tell me this, in the past 3 years since Weis has taken over name 1 win that tOSU has that you will say is a quality win. What the game at Texas when Colt McCoy was in his second game of his career.  That is about all I can think of. The rest of the teams you beat, ND has played them as well, and have beaten them, so does that mean tOSU has only beaten weak teams.

Lets see how tOSU does this year since they actually have scheduled a tough OCC. Then maybe then you can say other teams play weak schedules and brag about beating tough opponents.

 

 


Charlie Weis
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May 8, 2008 8:38 pm
Sorry,but Charlie is a poor excuse for a head coach. He is better suited as an assistant in the NFL. I don't get the feeling he doesn't great people skills.

Charlie Weis
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May 8, 2008 9:04 pm
Sorry,but Charlie is a poor excuse for a head coach. He is better suited as an assistant in the NFL. I don't get the feeling he doesn't great people skills
Its ok, you dont have to say sorry. The difference is your not sitting here saying ND only has wins against weak teams. We will see how great of a coach he is in the next couple of years. If he can turn ND into a national championship contender then I think that will change a lot of peoples mind.

Charlie Weis
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May 8, 2008 9:53 pm
His gravey level was dangerously low that day. A few donuts and cheeseburgers and he will be his ole merry self.

Charlie Weis
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