Swisher is not a lead off hitter or CF

Nice to hear from you again  " Repeat " it's been awhile since we spoke.  It appears you don't agree we with me and also the majority of the others writing on this board.  We all are just throwing out ideas and opinions. We just want the White Sox to win.

I guess I'm just not as smart as you.  We are "assuming"  that Owens will do a better job at lead-off then Swisher and he will add a dimension that they don't have now, a base stealer.   White Sox need to make changes before it gets to late.  Please don't go into shock, no one wants that. 

I do know what you are saying, the White Sox rely on the long ball to win. We all are trying to come up with other ways to score runs, I would bet the Ozzie is too.  I know you don't think Owens can help, that may be true. But, he showed signs last September that he can help "manufracure" runs.

We all know that, that is not a unique concept. but those guys aren't going anywhere, we hope they will do better, I don't think there is anyone on this board that disagrees with that statement.

YES!    I think they should and can do better.  Their careers shouldn't be over yet as you apparently think they are.  Konerko is only 34 years old!

I think you are misinterpreting what I am saying.  ASSUMING they bring Owens up , I know, that hasn't been estabilshed yet, or may never be, I'm saying that with an OF of Quentin, Owens and Dye and Swisher at 1st Base,  Thome or Konerko one of them wouldn't be in the line-up, or if Konerko DH's Thome sits , Dye sits when Swisher plays RF, thats all I meant.   Ozzie has said he wants to rest those guys more.   That's all it was, so you don't think they should rest Thome, Konerko or Dye??

Have a good day Repeat.....

As I am sure you all now if there is a stolen base threat on base the hitters are more likely to see fastballs. Whats the easiest pitch to hit, a fastball. The pitchers dont have anybody to worry about so they are going to be able to mix up their pitches against the sox. I bet if they had somebody who could steal 50 bases Cabrera and Thomes averages would go up very quickly. Is it any wonder the batting averages from the top of the order hitters dropped last year when they didnt have a leadoff hitter with speed? Again this year, the top of the order is struggling, I wonder why that is. Stolen bases are not "sexy" they impact the game in many ways and pitch selection is a huge one.

Sox lose 2-0.....Swish is 0-4.....4 runs in the last three games, and 4-7 in the last 11 against a lot of mediocre or worse comp......you're right, Swish should continue to lead off and nothing should change.....Marcum is good.....he is not that good.....Again, not bashing Swish, I just think he is out of his element, and would do far better down in the lineup, where he has bat his entire career up until now. 

Also, with one position player gone w visa problems, another out with a bad hand, and a third recovering  from a bad groin, why the hell do we bring up another pitcher ?  That really helped us a lot tonight.  These at bats are getting to be unwatchable.....Buehrle pitched his ass off tonight, and nothing to show for it.  This IS reminding me of 2007, when early in the year we had the best starters' ERA in the AL and were still losing. 

No I cant agree, 31% of the runs they scored have come via the Home Run. You dont need anybody on base to hit a home run thus driving in 1 run. How many solo home runs does Carlos Quentin have right now?

There may be a statisical analysis about the leadoff hitter but can you disprove the fact that last year when the Sox did not have a leadoff hitter with stolen base potential the numbers dropped drastically for the 2, 3 ,4 hitters? Thats all the proof I need add that to this years stats of the 2, 3, 4 hitters. Cabrera did well hitting 2 behind Figgins. You have to take into account that there are stolen base threats on bad team with bad hitters around them. That skews the stats look no further than Tampa the last few years with Carl Crawford. he had nobody else hitting around him, it isnt his fault he didnt have talent hitting near him. Look at the Tigers with out Granderson early in the year. who struggled the 2, 3, 4 hitters. Thats the proof I can easily see.

Perhaps the worst part, unlike last year, is that we are losing with our vets getting almost all of the PT, and the young players hardly getting any.  Jerry Owens is either going to be a) a future leadoff hitter for this team, or b) gone.  We need to find out, and since we are losing and not scoring runs, now is a good time for a change.  Nobody in the clubhouse can object to a lineup change right now, and I think some sort of shock treatment will help. 

Swish needs a day off, not only is he .208 with a .318 OBP (is he still the 2nd best hitter on the team by the way ?), but he is striking out in huge situations with runners on base...and looking to boot !  He did it today, and earlier in the week vs Nathan.  Pitchers now know what he is like as a leadoff, and almost always throw a first strike down the middle since they know he will take it.  He is in a mental funk, and a change in the batting order will help him.  Konerko was getting crucified by this board a week ago for having a low avg...."we need to trade him or move him from 4th "etc......even though he was driving in runs.  Why does Swisher, who is less proven not only over his career but with White Sox fans, get a break ? 

Maybe the occasional day off for Swish, Dye, Konerko, Thome, will refresh them, and remind them that they need to produce to keep their sport, not just show up and bank on their past reps.  In the meantime we get Owens some much needed AB's at the big league level, and inject some speed into the lineup. 

 Losing is bad enough, but for Ozzie to lose and not to do anything with the lineup to try to skake it up is just brutal.  I Cannot go through another year of this !  Like the previous post said, wait until the starting pitching cools off and things will really get ugly.