Unbelievable

Sorry GD, your logic is flawed...What makes you say that they don't score a TD anyway without the Hasselback penalty? And as much as it gives you comfort regarding the Roethlisberger TD, You cannot overturn that call because there is no visual evidence TO turn it over. Besides, that play happened on 3rd down...I would take my chances with Bettis on 4th who had something like 94% conversion on short byardage plays during his career. Or even with our 6'5" QB on a sneak.....Bad calls are part of the game, and if you read my earlier post on this thread I pointed out that a couple of those "disputed" calls were in fact jusdgment calls.... 

Its not flawed.  While the Steelers maybe scoring a TD any without the Hasselbeck penalty could have happened, it also may not have happened.  The way they were playing that day, which was terrible, it leads me to believe that they probably would not have, as they would have started that drive way back in their own territory.  And while they might have scored on 4th down after Ben didn't get it, they might not have.  You have no idea if Cowher even would have gone for it or not.  All I am saying is those penalties completely affected the dynamic of the game.  They were a HUGE part of it.  Sure they could have scored both those times, but they also probably wouldn't have.  And btw, there was enough visual evidence.  Its called replay.  And it clearly showed the ball was at least 2 feet from that goal line.  We all saw it.  The mere fact that every Steeler fan I know says "oh they would have scored anyway on the next play" is complete admission from Steeler fans.   

GD, we are not that far from agreeing here.. Anything is possible, so arguing is not worth the time and effort...But the Ben was reviewed over and over again. I don't know where you see the ball 2 feet from the goal line...There are 2 players blocking the camera from the goal line and there is no person in their right mind who can see anything to overturn that call..Unless you have x-ray vision that is!

BTW, Cowher and Roethlisberger have stated MANY times that they go for it on 4th down there. Including while the replay was on-going. They said if it is overturned "we are going".

And also GD, let me vent here!

You say the penalties affected te dynamic of the game.. You are absolutely correct...Maybe if the Seahawks hadnt have commited them, they might have won the game.   Dammit!

BTW, Cowher and Roethlisberger have stated MANY times that they go for it on 4th down there. Including while the replay was on-going. They said if it is overturned "we are going".

Of course they did.  How easy it to say that after the fact.  Please.  Complete rationalization of a bad call. 

Maybe I wasn't there GB. During the game, while the review is ongoing the two of them were overheard saying, "if this gets overturned, we are going"

happy to clear that up!

In regards to the steeler comments...why even still argue this that was so long ago the steelers won fair and square get over it nothing is going to change that and quite frankly it the thing that should have happened.  To say the football was two feet away from being a touchdown is ludicris.  it was in his forearm and basically was right on the line if there was tissue paper hung across the goal line it wouldn't even had ripped it but guess what it would have touched it which means it is a td (the only thing i cna think is that you seem to think that it needs to go across the far side of the line but only the front side) so i'm not sure where you come up with two feet.  And about the hasselback penalty it was just that a penalty check the rule book...he hit below the knees and after throwing an int noone on the offense or defense can do that...it is illegal plain and simple and besides that it was only a 15 yard penalty you said we would be starting in our own end...no we would have only started 15 yards farther which is not as much as you make it out to seem.  (also did the refs cause hasselback to throw the int I don't think so so maybe the int is what allowed us to score the td)

In regards to the hold...again it was just that...haggans had him beat and seatles guy was holding him under his arm from behind its a hold plain and simple there is no controversy about it...and the pass int call yes it was a soft call that you don't see normally called...but if he does'nt push off than he probably doesn't catch the football so it is a penalty...I'm not sure where the controversy is and its not like the refs allowed the 70 yard td or the end around or the int or anything else that happened during that time...i can't believe you are still so bitter about this after all these years...get over it

...and please ranger fans stop whinign about the refs...there is nothing to complain about...nothing to look into...there were questionable calls in all games...both ways how about the high stick or how about when the ranger player threw his stick and we got a slash, or two of the pp the Rangers got one set up the 2nd goal in game 4 where sykora got the stick and they called him for hooking when you are allowed to lift the stick...those things even out...thats why they play best of seven...that way the better team wins.

::applause for the penguins::

To "PghSprtFan1:"

Your user name seems to be a bit misleading considering your butchering of Mike Lange's catch phrases!

"HEEEEE SHOOTS AND SCORES, MOVE OVER INTO THE FAST LANE GRANDMA, THE BINGO GAME IS ON THE ROLL "

It's 'Get in the fast line Grandma, the bingo game is ready to roll!'

I don't know where you came up with 'move over into the fast lane' or the bingo game is 'on the roll.'  I'm not even sure how a bingo game can be on the roll? Like a dinner roll? I don't know!