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Great, so Ohio St. gets to get creamed every year
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Great, so Ohio St. gets to get creamed every year
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Great, so Ohio St. gets to get creamed every year
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Reputation:93
Level:All-Star
Since:Oct 30, 2006
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Pathetic. Ohio State gets to continue to romp through their third rate conference only to get wiped out in the BCS championship every year. With a plus one, we might actually have a competitive title game involving two evenly matched teams. I say let Ohio State get killed in the Rose Bowl every year and let the big boys play for it all.
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Great, so Ohio St. gets to get creamed every year
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Great, so Ohio St. gets to get creamed every year
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Reputation:97
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Since:Sep 12, 2006
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Great. That means Michigan has to romp through their conference and beat Florida every year in a bowl game. I say let Florida play in their meaningless conference title game every year and let the other schools play for the national title.
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Great, so Ohio St. gets to get creamed every year
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Great, so Ohio St. gets to get creamed every year
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Reputation:93
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Since:Oct 30, 2006
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That's almost funny. You can't really be serious. Michigan's most important bowl victory in 10 years is the Capital One bowl and you're bragging about that? Sorry, bub, but Michigan is not even in the discussion. Michigan doesn't count and you know it. Unbelievable.
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Great, so Ohio St. gets to get creamed every year
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Great, so Ohio St. gets to get creamed every year
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Reputation:91
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Since:Oct 18, 2007
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D-I App State beats Michigan and Florida cant even beat Michigan in a practical home game with the Heisman QB. I guess the SEC has deteriorated to a pathetic point letting some Big 10 team run and pass all over them. Id be embarrassed if I were a Florida fan.
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Great, so Ohio St. gets to get creamed every year
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Great, so Ohio St. gets to get creamed every year
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Reputation:93
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Since:Oct 30, 2006
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Florida did not have a particularly great year, agreed. What has me so entertained, at the moment, is that UM fans think that their 8-4 finish and Capital One victory is some kind of accomplishment. I'll tell you what: Michican can have all of the Cap One bowl victories that it wants. I'll gladly trade a national championship, even in the messed up BCS, for a loss in Orlando anytime. Face it: the SEC cares about winning championships, not second tier bowls. The Big 10, who never wins anything, thinks a capital one victory is something special. Do me one favor: name the last time a Big 10 team one one of the 5 biggies.
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Great, so Ohio St. gets to get creamed every year
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Great, so Ohio St. gets to get creamed every year
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Reputation:80
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Since:Apr 30, 2008
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Every year? Since when is two times "every year?" Why isn't 2002 part of "every year?" And the Buckeyes' 3 other BCS bowl victories? Aren't they part of "every year?"
We have a system under which the SEC has won 4 NCs in 10 years, one being UF. I would have thought you'd be happy. If a plus one was in play during the entire history of the BCS, you know how many times UF would have played in the four-team tournament? Once. 2006, when they won it. Therefore, I really don't see why you care so much, as UF hasn't been screwed out of a chance at a title by anyone in the BCS era.
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Great, so Ohio St. gets to get creamed every year
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Great, so Ohio St. gets to get creamed every year
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Reputation:93
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Since:Oct 30, 2006
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I care because I think a playoff, of any sort--4 teams, 8 teams, 12, take your pick--is the most fair, not to mention exciting, way to decide your champion. I can't speak for all Florida alums, or even all of the SEC, but, personally, I would rather lose in a playoff then win in the BCS.
Thank you, though, for mentioning Ohio State in 2002. In the 5 seasons since, they have won 2 more Fiesta Bowls and Penn State won the Orange once. Meanwhile, the SEC has won has won 3 BCS title games and 4 Sugar Bowls. Do you really want to go down this road?
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Great, so Ohio St. gets to get creamed every year
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Great, so Ohio St. gets to get creamed every year
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Reputation:80
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Since:Apr 30, 2008
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You'd rather lose in a playoff than win it all? Whatever works for you, but I still can't understand the Buckeye hate. Their title game appearances have had no negative impact on UF at all.
As for "going down that road," we can all pick any starting point and any set of games to prove a point. Why not add the Cap One Bowl during that same period, where the BT is 4-1 vs. the SEC? But I'd rather not, because it means nothing to me. I don't cheer for a conference. That SEC fans do is completely alien and mind-boggling to me. None of those 4 wins in the Cap One Bowl involved the Bucks, so me personally, I could not possibly care less.
If the Bucks get back to the title game, why will you complain? Chances are, it will not adversely impact your school, just as it never has before.
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Great, so Ohio St. gets to get creamed every year
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Great, so Ohio St. gets to get creamed every year
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Reputation:99
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Since:Oct 8, 2006
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I'd prefer to see a plus one system because like everyone else in a America I'd prefer to see a competitiive national championship between two teams that deserve to be there. There were 3 teams in the nation better than Ohio State last year. USC, Georgia, and LSU. In no way, shape, or form, should OSU have been there. They ran through a conference where their toughest opponent lost to App. St. Yeah they bounced back to beat an average UF(average for a UF team that is) team in a meaningless bowl game. A plus one will at least give the fans a better chance to see the two best teams play for it all...
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Great, so Ohio St. gets to get creamed every year
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Great, so Ohio St. gets to get creamed every year
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Reputation:88
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Since:Jan 7, 2008
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Man, it's not often you are going to see a Dawg agreeing with a Gator but this is one of those times. GoGators is putting the big ten to shame single handedly here. The SEC cares about competition because there is a general feeling in the SEC that we have the best conference in the land and for that reason we would relish a truly fair playoff system to put an end to all the arguments. We believe that given the opportunity, the SEC would shine and win championship after championship.
When any team from the SEC gets screwed out of their shot at a title we all get pissed because it's a lost opportunity to prove our point. I don't know if GoGators will agree that gators were pissed when UGA got HOSED last year but I know I was not happy when it happened to Auburn a while back.
I think that deep down everyone associated with the Big Ten, Pac-10, Big East... know about the pain the SEC would bring and that is where the opposition comes from. How long before there are two SEC teams playing for the title? It would happen within 5 yrs of a play-off.
Weak conferences beware, pain train comin...whooo....whooo!!!!!
Go SEC
Go Dawgs!!!!!
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Great, so Ohio St. gets to get creamed every year
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Great, so Ohio St. gets to get creamed every year
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Reputation:93
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Since:Oct 30, 2006
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Obviously, I would rather win the SEC than have LSU or UGa win it. But, all else being equal, I would rather see LSU win the Natl. Championship than a team from any other conference. To me, that speaks to the strength of my own team. So, for instance, if we lost at LSU by 10 and you lost on a neutral site to them by 4 touchdowns, I can comfortably say that a middle of the pack SEC team, as Florida clearly was last year, is at least on the same level as the best the Big 10 has to offer.
I'm a little surprised that you don't care how the rest of the Big 10 does out of league. The point, as most other people seem to get, is that OSU, playing a considerably weaker schedule, not to mention the avoidance of a yearly league championship game, has a decided advantage in having the opportunity to play for the national championship. They simply have to win less games over, even you would have to admit, lesser opponents, to get to the same place, as say a Big 12 or SEC team.
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Great, so Ohio St. gets to get creamed every year
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Great, so Ohio St. gets to get creamed every year
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Since:Apr 30, 2008
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In "no way, shape, or form?" How about being ranked 1st in the BCS standings at the end of the regular season? For all their faults, they didn't lose to South Carolina or Stanford at home, and then pile a road loss on top of that. Shouldn't those losses count for something? LSU was a deserving champion. They won the SEC and won the title game. But how absurd to think you are owed a certain matchup, or that OSU is at fault for the regular season chokes of two other teams, one of which couldn't win its division.
Even more absurd is the notion that a school should not be considered for the title game before the season starts because they lost the previous two. It makes no sense. Fortunately, the Bucks' 2008 destiny is not in the hands of SEC fans.
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Great, so Ohio St. gets to get creamed every year
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Great, so Ohio St. gets to get creamed every year
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Reputation:96
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Since:Oct 11, 2006
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Yawn, a yokul Florida fan talking smack after losing to a Big 10 team in its Bowl. This post lost all credibility when a 3rd-rate Michigan team beat your Gators, in Florida.
It's funny, you would think that winning National Titles would give Gator fans that "class" that comes with winning programs, but I see these turds all over the web, clinging to their title two years ago after crapping the bed against a Big 10 Team last year.
The majority of LSU fans on here are witty, classy, knowledgeable people: take a lesson from your SEC-bretheren. You guys have a great conference, tops in the NCAA right now. Period. We all know that conference talent is cyclical, and I have a feeling the OSU will once again have a big say in next year's national champion, like it or not.
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Great, so Ohio St. gets to get creamed every year
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Great, so Ohio St. gets to get creamed every year
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Reputation:80
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Since:Apr 30, 2008
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So, for instance, if we lost at LSU by 10 and you lost on a neutral site to them by 4 touchdowns, I can comfortably say that a middle of the pack SEC team, as Florida clearly was last year, is at least on the same level as the best the Big 10 has to offer.
OSU destroyed Washington. USC squeaked by Washington. You know what? On a neutral field, I still wouldn't have taken my Bucks unless you gave me at least 9 points. The transitive property does not apply to college football.
I'm a little surprised that you don't care how the rest of the Big 10 does out of league. The point, as most other people seem to get, is that OSU, playing a considerably weaker schedule, not to mention the avoidance of a yearly league championship game, has a decided advantage in having the opportunity to play for the national championship. They simply have to win less games over, even you would have to admit, lesser opponents, to get to the same place, as say a Big 12 or SEC team.
Why should I care? The Big Ten plays maybe seven or eight games of consequence outside the league in a given year, and that's stretching it. That's not counting bowl games, which even you say are meaningless unless it is in the BCS. OSU plays at USC this year. Winning that validates their season, and will guarantee a title game appearance if they win the other 11. It really doesn't matter what the rest of the league does. The chances of a league opponent's OOC play costing the Bucks a title shot is so small that it isn't worth considering.
I'm not going to bag on UF's schedule in any year. Georgia, Tennessee, LSU, and FSU every year is tough enough that they shouldn't have to answer for their schedule. What that gets UF is an almost certain tiebreaker against any one-loss team, should the Gators also have one loss (see '96 and '06). But this talk about 2-loss teams passing one or zero loss teams is silly. The SEC schedule is tougher, but not to the point that they should get a free pass over very good teams from other leagues.
As for the conference title game, the Big Ten is one team short of meeting the NCAA requirement to hold the game. They can't do it. On the other hand, the SEC does so by choice. No one holds a gun to their heads. If you think the schedule is too tough, drop the title game.
I think SEC fans are overhyping what is, admittedly, the best conference in college ball (and probably will be for the next 3-5 years at least). This plus-one desire seems to be rooted in some fantasy that we would have regular title games between 2 SEC teams. But two SEC teams have finished in the top 4 only twice, '06 and '07. I think the recency of this unlikely event, happening in back to back years, has caused people to see it as a regular occurrence, not an anomaly. Kinda the same way we get all this "Bucks suck" talk based on 2 games against very good teams. I mean, it's not like they lost the Humanitarian Bowl or something.
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Great, so Ohio St. gets to get creamed every year
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Great, so Ohio St. gets to get creamed every year
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Since:Oct 25, 2007
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Although I despise the University of Michigan Wolverines, being a Michigan State Spartan fan, you should know what you're talking about when you speak.
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