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April 29, 2008 2:39 pm

kingbd1

You were old enough to watch Sloan play and you know how to use a computer kudos to you!  I thought the only people that old that got on message boards were pedifiles.  Your not a pedifile right? 

By the way you're just like the rest of the Houston fans living in the past, but I guess that is what the elderly do right.  Let it go!  You didn't have to beat anyone to get your ring Jordan wasn't playing you beat Orlando and the Knicks.  As long as you have the curse on your team your're not going anywhere.  So in a way I'm happy you have your championships it gives you some comfort at night since you can't and won't get out of the first round ever again while McCrybabby is around.  The rest of us "crybabby" Jazz fans win just live in the here and now while our team is one of the best in the west


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April 29, 2008 2:41 pm

The Jazz players and coaches have done nothing but praise the Rockets. Vice versa, The Rockets have done nothing but whine and complain that the refs are letting the Jazz play too physical against Trixie McWhiner. Give me a break! I haven't heard one person, including Adelman give the Jazz a single ounce of credit yet. Then you have the stupidity to call the Jazz a bunch of whiners. Your guys complain about every freaking call. Its too the point of ridiculousness.


I think what we're talking about are the jazz fans on this board BYU.  If im not mistaken, that's what we mean by complaining and whining.  As Tejano said in a previous post and what I've said on the general NBA boards a few times is that you jazz fans have basically taken over this board and are being so critical to everyone on here.  We're fans, you think everything we're going to talk about on here is going to be resonable?  It's called venting man.

Now, me personally I wouldn't go onto another teams board and talk crap.  I figure that's what the NBA general area is for, that and I don't like to stir up a bunch of people behind a keyboard.  I don't want to read all the hate talk.  Im not sure, maybe some Rocket fans went on your board and that's how all this started. 

Whatever the reason, here's a fact.  You aren't going to change anyone's opinion on the internet hell probably not even in person about the team they love to cheer for.  So, why yall are posting on here I don't even know, attention, just to annoy people, whatever.  If anyone of the Rockets posters on here don't like it, I would suggest ignoring it, that's what Im going to do from now on.  Because we aren't gunna change their opinions of us or the Jazz either.

If yall feel like defending your team go for it, Im tired of doing it.


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April 29, 2008 2:57 pm
 kingbd1

You were old enough to watch Sloan play and you know how to use a computer kudos to you!  I thought the only people that old that got on message boards were pedifiles.  Your not a pedifile right? 

By the way you're just like the rest of the Houston fans living in the past, but I guess that is what the elderly do right.  Let it go!  You didn't have to beat anyone to get your ring Jordan wasn't playing you beat Orlando and the Knicks.  As long as you have the curse on your team your're not going anywhere.  So in a way I'm happy you have your championships it gives you some comfort at night since you can't and won't get out of the first round ever again while McCrybabby is around.  The rest of us "crybabby" Jazz fans win just live in the here and now while our team is one of the best in the west

 

Naw son, I am not a pedifile....LOl...but you might check your birth certificate... just in case.... to see if my name is on there as"'Dad"...LMAO

Go ahead and live in the "here" kid...I like to do that myself. As for my here, when I go to the Toyota Center to cheer for my team, I still see two championship banners hanging from the rafters, too. However, I am sure those imaginary banners you cats talk about during all that championship Jazz talk you do on the radio there look just as lovely in your mind though.

Oh...BTW...when we won those 2 rings lad...we did have to beat somebody to get there and the cheating, crying Jazz were one of those teams. Scoreboard is still scoreboard son...now...and forever.


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April 29, 2008 3:07 pm
 

Jazz Best Voted Among the Dirtiest

Wednesday, November 14, 2001

Karl Malone edged Portland's Rasheed Wallace as the dirtiest player in the NBA in a usatoday.com poll. (Rick Egan/The Salt Lake Tribune)

Dirty is a matter of interpretation, and in the NBA, dirty isn't necessarily a bad thing. It translates into getting away with whatever you can. Fans who voted in a usatoday.com survey were right to look no further than Utah to find two of the all-time best at getting away with not-so-clean play. Between them, Karl Malone and John Stockton got 46.4 percent of the vote as the dirtiest player. Malone led the way with 31.9 percent, Portland's Rasheed Wallace was a close second with 29.4 percent and Stockton finished third with 14.5 percent of the vote.

Stockton is my pick. He knows the little tricks -- pulling a defender down as he falls after a shot, slyly jumping into defenders and getting the calls to go his way, slickly grabbing and holding when no referee can see it and just being a physical, tough, no-nonsense guy. I want him on my team, definitely.

Malone is so big and strong. Opponents have a tendency to get knocked out of the way when he wants to rid himself of them. He also protects his teammates. Remember when Isiah Thomas knocked Stockton silly on one play, and the next time they played Malone went upside Thomas's head to the tune of about 20 stitches? He can watch my back.

http://www.makingpages.org/hoops/2001-Poll-Jazz-Dirtiest-NBA.pdf

 

Karl Malone was interviewed in Playboy magazine shortly after the Isiah Thomas incident. Malone said he enjoyed pushing the refs till he got away with something and then pushing to see what he could get away with, and then, when they let him get away with something, he would push again to try to get away with more. He pushed and pushed, and the refs gave and gave, until the league created someone very dangerous. (The choice of the word "dangerous," by the way, is not mine -- it a word chosen by journalists like Eddie Sefko and players like Avery Johnson.)

After a game in which Malone sent Atlanta Hawk Sidney Moncrief sprawling,
according to Sports Illustrated, fellow Hawk, Dominique Wilkins stung the
Mailman with a rebuke, to this effect: "You're a cheap-shot artist. You're
not a man. You always go out there to hurt somebody smaller than you."

This would become a recurring theme in Malone's career.

http://www.makingpages.org/hoops/Malone.danger.html#playboy

 

The Flopmeister

<blockquote>

Best Actor -- Karl Malone

I'm not an S/E, so it blows my mind how a 256-pound power forward can be brushed by a 185-pound point guard and go flying 20 feet into the seats or how air molecules can cause a personal foul. Somehow, the Mailman creates such situations and wins the hearts and minds of coddling refs everywhere. He should win more Academy Awards than Jerry Maguire for his tremendous performance this past year.

</blockquote>

Eddie Johnson said, " He's been flailing his whole career. That's why he's always at the foul line. He's falling on the floor, flailing his arms."

Brent Price said, "They [Stockton and Malone] are both pretty good actors. They might want to go to Hollywood after their careers." Price, 6'1" and listed charitably at 190 pounds, continued, "Look at my size. I can't really knock Karl Malone down, I don't think, even if I was going full speed and he was just standing there."

http://www.makingpages.org/hoops/Malone.danger.html#flop

 

Don't take my word on it whiners....look what the rest of the world had to say. I could put a million of these up here...but I think you get the point.

Rockets- 2 championships Crying cheating Jazz - Zero championships

BY DAVID DuPREE

USA TODAY

 


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April 29, 2008 4:17 pm

WTF...we are on a roll here now....here are some Sloan facts and some Nuggets on how he has imparted his philosophies on his players and the delusional biased fans in Salt lake City...just for you whiners...and for my kid there, too:

 

Jerry Sloan as player , Fine line between tough and dirty

2:01 PM Fri, Apr 18, 2008 Butch Alsandor

The first thing I noticed talking to the Rockets about their opening playoff series vs Utah , is that Rick Adelman has nothing but love for Jazz coach Jerry Sloan. The two men have a history. They were teammates back in the 70's with the Chicago Bulls. Adelman got to see Sloan's tenacity up close and personal and he never saw a more hard nosed player. "If you played with Jerry you respected how hard he worked, if you played against him you hated him," said Adelman.

Back in the day, Sloan and Chicago guard Norm Van Lier were the "Bruise Brothers". Sloan was consistently on the N.B.A. All-Defensive First Team leaving the competition black and blue along the way.
"He was a 6'6 guard who lead our team in rebounding , the guy was the tougest competitor I every saw." "He was a mean guy who intimidated players, He got after Pete Maravich so bad one day all Pete would do was shoot 30 footers ." According to Adelman that's just the way Jerry was , and it's the way he wants the Utah Jazz to play . "He would not back down from anyone , he would do whatever it took to take someone out of their game."
Physical play has become the trademark of the Utah Jazz , its been their style for 20 years . But now you know where it comes from.

Sloan has built the Jazz in his own image, so for the Rockets to have a shot they must not get pushed around. Shane Battier says , "its like dealing with a bully if you hit him in the mouth first he'll think twice before he comes back."

http://www.beloblog.com/sports/2008/04/jerry-sloan-as-player-fine-lin.html

 

Jazz fans, who booed Dirk every time he touched the ball after the mugging, might not be willing to forgive Dirk. But Utah coach Jerry Sloan, one of the NBA's great enforcers during his playing days, isn't crying foul about Dirk's flagrant foul.

"I really didn't think it was something that flagrant," Sloan told reporters. "I know it may have looked that way, but I don't think Nowitzki is that kind of guy. It's part of basketball."

http://mavsblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2008/03/dirks-sort-of-sorry-about-flagrant-foul.html

 

Indeed, Sloan had a deep influence on Adelman.

"He was the perfect teammate," he said. "When I played against him, I thought he was a really dirty player. When I played with him, I loved him.

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/5713946.html

 

The last thing anybody should complain about is a hard file taken by a Jerry Sloan coached team. Come on, this is the guy who's reputation is built upon fouling the opponent in that type of fashion.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/blog/ball_dont_lie/post/Dirk-Nowitzki-clobbers-Andrei-Kirilenko?urn=nba,69897&cp=2

The Warriors just moan and groan. The Jazz do it too (Sloan complains about everything)

http://www.goldenstateofmind.com/story/2007/5/14/233711/004

 

to jerry sloan's team, yes it is.

utah's tactics: foul on defense EVERY TIME. if the refs don't call all of them, which they don't, then we benefit.

Jerry Sloan: (talking to Kirlinko) "Sweep the leg. You got a problem with that?"

http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showthread.php?t=147416&page=1

For a long time Malone's primary move was to take a couple of dribbles into the lane and then both arms up into the air as if he'd been grievously fouled. Replays always showed it was a joke.

But then he'd miss the free throws, especially with the game on the line.

Stockton got almost all of his assists on the same simple pass. Did he ever create his own shot?

They were both dirty, having been schooled by all-time dirty player Jerry Sloan. How many people did Malone badly injure with his elbows? It happened quite a few times.

http://galleyslaves.blogspot.com/2005/05/miller-time-now-with-stockton-malone.html

 

"My hatred of the Jazz continues with a fervor that is almost religious. I am a Mormon, I have family in Utah, and I still hate the Jazz! Don't lump all Mormons [in] with the brand of dirty ball that Sloan has been espousing for his entire career. There are some there who know them for what they truly are!"(Utah resident)

"They've been doing that for the last 17 years. Time and time again they create foul situations, and the refs call it. We (the coaching staff) used to get furious in my earlier days with Chicago, but we just laugh at it now."
-- Phil Jackson, coach of the Los Angeles Lakers

"MVPs do not need to flop."
-- Hakeem Olajuron, MVP center for the 1994 NBA Champion Houston Rockets

"In the nursing home, I hope children run up and kick away their canes, then cry and point at the 'bad old men' who 'touched them funny'."
-- pasox2

 

I love this too:

They flop like trout out of water. Although never awarded any acting awards, the Jazz, led by Stockton and Malone, are the league's best actors. Their defensive scheme is to fall down and have the refs call charging. They have invented a whole new field of physics in which momentum is not conserved — one need only see the 265 pound Malone fly through the air after incidental contact from a 165 pound point guard to see this new form of physics in action. In its list of the worst floppers in basketball history, Foulshots.com gave special mention to the entire Jazz team: "The entire Jazz team has been flopping for so long that it almost seems like they work on it in practice." Hopefully, Jerry Sloan won't hurt himself falling down when John Stockston walks in to practice in the morning.

Elbows, illegal picks, dirty play -- Jerry Sloan, known for being a fighter in his youth, has taught them to be the dirtiest players ever. That's not just us fans talking. ESPN had a poll last year and Malone and Stockton topped the list convincingly with 60% of the votes. Jerry Sloan was the dirtiest coach, as well. Years ago, SI ran an article on the ten dirtiest players in the league at that time. Among the "winners" were Rick Mahorn, and Vernon Maxwell, who once stabbed a teammate at a team dinner, and ... none other than John Stockton. Stockton is fsmous for setting illegal picks on big men's kidneys and how often he elbows other guards. And that is not including his flops. He is smart, he is great player, but he is one of the dirtiest players of his time On Malone, well, just remember he once sent two opposing players to the hospital in one month! The funny thing is that the gutless bastard never picks on a man his size. I remember how he backed away from Otis Thorpe and hit Othella Harrington from behind.

 

http://www.makingpages.org/hoops/jazzholes-2002.html

 

Hey, I could go on and on all day with you delusional whiners..laughing my butt of at you fans of the flopping cheaters...but just like everone else here, I know you are in extreme denial and will never accept the truth anyhow.




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April 29, 2008 4:28 pm

Hey Jazz whiners..the fans voted and came up with two new names for your heroes there in crappy Salt Lake City...and I got to admit that they fit them to a T:

Failman and John Flopton

 

LMAO


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April 29, 2008 5:24 pm

Man, Stockton and Malone havnt played for years and king wont stop talking about how they flopped. I really love how much you live in the past, you cant talk about this series,only how Rockets have won 2 championships a million years ago. Are you mad because Stockton hit the deep 3 to beat you guys and go to the finals?

Jazz 3 ROCKETS 1

 

ps I also thought it was funny how you complained, about us complaining about everything, your kindof a hypocrit


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April 29, 2008 6:51 pm

Nope whiner...just telling it like it is.

Oh yeah...remember when Stockton hit that 3? Yep...another incident where the Jazz cheated again...The Failman picked up Drexler and moved him out of the way for Flopton and the refs turned a blind eye. Even though you made it to the championship series to get schooled again, you still had to cheat to get there.


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April 29, 2008 6:53 pm
One more haha you tools...94 and 95 ain't a million years ago...but never...which is when you won your championships, is still forever.

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April 29, 2008 6:54 pm
Jazz 3 0 Rockets 1 2  Championships

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April 29, 2008 6:57 pm

ps I also thought it was funny how you complained, about us complaining about everything, your kindof a hypocrit

 

Hey Slingblade, did you and your mutant budddies give any thought to whose board you were posting on?

The Jazz suck...just like always.


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