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what happens if you declare but don't get drafted


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what happens if you declare but don't get drafted
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Since:Dec 19, 2006

April 22, 2008 2:00 am

From the amount of underclassmen declaring mixed in with seniors and oversees players I could see a few of these idiots not get drafted. I'm curious.

I understand it's all about the money but if you aren't guareenteed a good amount go back to school and improve your stock.

 

If you are not projected in the first round you should not go pro...it's just that simple. Please don't give me the injury possibilites or the drop in ranking..ala Hibbert....it rarely happens.

 

i like this mock draft and see players like Hickson from NC state that should go back for another year.


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April 22, 2008 10:58 pm
... a few of these idiots not get drafted.

Then they go job-hunting, unless they are careful and don't hire an agent, sniff out the situation and withdraw before the draft occurs (10 days before?). Then the option of returning to school is still open, but this is a one-time-only provision. Declare again and it's for real.

Only two rounds in the draft means a number of good players (seniors and underclassmen) that do go undrafted will be invited to training camps where they might hook on or be signed in the development league. Also, there is the overseas option.


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April 23, 2008 8:40 pm

If u dont get drafted it isnt a big deal. Many people get signed out of free agency and still get some playing time as well as some good $$. If worst comes to worst u just make a few hundred thousand dollars playing in Europe.


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April 24, 2008 1:47 pm
I guess the point I'm trying to make is why would an underclassman declare who might not even be drafted. I know he might pick up with a team or go overseas. Wouldn't the SMART thing to do would be to go back to school and improve your chances to actually get some big money and if you don't you do one of the above stated things. I guess I just don't understand how dumb some of the lower ranked guys are

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April 26, 2008 12:22 am
These kids are not dumb. They just might be misguided by someone close to them, feeding them information that they want to hear. They might also have the opinion that they really are that good, I mean don't most athletes think they can compete with the best in the world. Some of these kids didn't really want to go to collage in the first place, they only went to get exposure on the ncaa scene. Plus some players do go undrafted and still get picked up by NBA teams, without having to sign a three year contract. Kaleene Azabuke is a prime example of some one going undrafted and still making a impact in the league.

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April 26, 2008 12:58 pm

I agree w/ you that it would be great to see college hoops' top stars return for at least 3 years, hopefully 4.  Of course, since any player can declare one year and pull out by a certain point before the draft, it makes it really easy and intriguing for the players to at least test the waters to see where they are ranked by scouts/teams.   If they think they've done enough to improve if they come back, they will most assuredly enter the draft again the next year and can't go back to school. 

While it's true that possible injuries aren't a huge motivator, some players have dropped in ranking if they have a lesser season when they come back.  You are only guaranteed money if drafted in the first round and will only get the great money right off if in the top half of the first round.  A small drop, like from 10 to 16, for example, could mean a big drop in pay.  It may not be the norm, but possible.  I do think there are some players who come from very poor backgrounds and do go earlier to help their families also.  Not saying, that's a significant amount, but there are some. 

Tyler Hansbrough and Stephen Curry are rare exceptions that come from backgrounds where their families have a positive influence towards them staying in school. 

I am a major college hoops guy.  I even do my own rankings w/ players.  It gets kind of frustrating to have to rank mostly new players each year instead of having more of the elite stay around.   Plus, as a fan, it's nice to have that familiarity on a fave team or just in the game in general. 

I truly hope the new proposed rule for players to have to stay in school at least two years passes. 

Hopefully, the scouts will tell most of these who entered that they need to return.  Of course, kiss Beasley, Gordon, Love, etc. goodbye. 


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April 26, 2008 2:23 pm
I beleive if you don't get drafted, you can come back to school if you don't hire an agent. That's what I beleive happend to Randolph Morris a couple years ago. He had to sit out a few games though.


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April 27, 2008 3:09 pm
If you don't get drafted, not only can you come back (if you don;t hire an agent), but you can;t re-enter the draft. Which is why Randolph Morris was allowed to sign with the Knicks right after the NCAA tourney.

One day, some kid will declare, not get drafted, return to school, and have a dynamic year, then be able to get more money than the top pick, since he will in essence be a free agent, and not subject tot he rookie salary cap. Then they will change that rule.

There are a couple of people in this draft where I could foresee this happening. Robin Lopez of Stanford, Derrick Caracter from Louisville, and Lorenzo Wade of San Diego State come to mind.

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April 27, 2008 10:46 pm
Randolph is a special case in that he hired an agent then decided to come back to school. He had to sit out a few games and was ordered to give back all the money he had payed the agent and ordered to not do bussiness with him. This enabled him to be eligible for the season. However he was ineligable to be drafted by the NBA. This was not a easy way to get to the NBA or have a productive collage season. The rules are in place to protect all three parties(NCAA, NBA, and The athlete). I like the rule that the player can test his worth and not be punished so that he can't get a degree. To do this once and be able to go back to school is good for the athlete and the NCAA. To do it twice would just be bad for the NBA. So I think it works for all parties involved.

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April 29, 2008 6:37 pm

Randolph Morris was lucky