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April 3, 2008 10:50 am
I just got finished browsing through the latest Sporting News, while it is chock full of MLB info and that was what caught my eye, it contains an article on Mitch Mustain and his endevours at USC.  It basically also has a recap of the debacle of the dealings on the hill and his feud with Nutt.  Thought you all might want to read it.  I don't know if the article is online or not, but I will try to see.  How is spring practice looking.

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April 3, 2008 11:11 am

Here is the online article on Mustain.

http://www.sportingnews.com/yourturn/viewtopic.php?t=394151


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April 3, 2008 7:02 pm
Well mustain made his bed. If he really said what they said he said before even going to arkansas that was a stupid way to try and get a good start.

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April 3, 2008 8:30 pm
I am not an insider, so anything I might say is just speculation, but it seems that Mitch was jerked around by Houston Nutt.

You can say that DMac and Felix should be used to best advantage, and I would agree, but if you are a throwing quarterback, and you are recruited by a team knowing your skills and the team also hires your HS coach to implement an offense that uses your skills, I would say you have an expectation of how things ought to go. If Mustain had played those games and not been a winner, that'd be one thing, but he did win.

People in Arkansas complained for years that Houston Nutt was a mediocre coach, and after it was shown without a doubt, some people want to shoot the evidence (Mitch's case) that demonstrates Nutt's incompetence rather than accept that Mitch really didn't have much say in it, and could only vote with his feet. Its obvious from reading the article that Mitch would still rather be in Arkansas playing for UofA than in California fighting for a spot at USC.

I wish Mitch luck in his endeavors, and hope that our new coach can take us to a higher level than Nutt did.

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April 4, 2008 12:42 pm

I don't care if Mustain is or was the next coming of Joe Montana. The kid is and always will be a cry baby. Whether it is him doing the crying or his mother doing it for him, there will always be some sort of controversy everytime he doesn't get his way. I for one am glad he is at USC and not causing problems here. Good Luck and have a nice life somewhere but here!


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April 4, 2008 1:57 pm

Didn't mommy go to Cali with him?

Thats all that I really want to know is that both he and his mother are no longer in the state of Arkansas. They are an accurate demonstration of how to complain when you do not get your way. And as a people of a state we are not like that. There are alot of things that do not go our way because of our smaller population and also our lower income, but whining is not part of the character that we want to instil in our children or our population. So with that I say good ridens.

 

BHW


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April 5, 2008 9:26 am

I am not sure why Mitch Mustain went to USC.  They already have a quarterback in Sanchez that played in several games last year.  Does he think that he is going to be the starting quarterback?  He only has two years of eligibility left.  That is not a lot of time to show what you can do.

 


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April 5, 2008 11:53 am
If mustain is any good 2 years is plenty of time. I don't think he will make it, he really picked the wrong school.

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April 5, 2008 1:40 pm
Sorry hogvilla for having to take the crap coming from some of the great sooners, specially when you don't even go onto there board. Maybe you should start making a presence on the sooner board more often.

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April 5, 2008 2:19 pm
I don't see why you can get away with warning someone because you think something. If thats all you have to do then maybe some one should do the same to lifetimeboomer.

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April 6, 2008 6:49 pm
Houston Nutt did not "jerk" Mustain around. We won the games Mustain started despite his play and not because of it. He consistently overthrew receivers and showed no leadership skills. Nutt brought him in with every intention of running Malzahn's offense. It wasn't working (mainly because of Mustain's poor play). When we were running Gus's offense we got killed by USC and had to have a gust of wind knock down a field goal to squeak by Vandy. Starting with Auburn, he demanded that the bulk of the touches go to McFadden and Jones. Worked pretty well I'd say. He was probably also willing to get back to Gus's play in a couple of years when we would be able to recruit to that style, but Gus left. I'm also tired of hearing about all the success he had at Tulsa. Yes, they piled up the yards, but look at scoring. Tulsa's offense outscored ours last year by a mere .1 points a game.
  I also take offense to idiots in the media who try to say Nutt hired Malzahn to get Mustain. That may have made some sense if he had given him some bs coaching chore, but he made the guy OC and that's not a move you make for one player - not any player. Gus had a future at Arkansas, he just wasn't patient enough to wait until the talent was there to run his system. Are there any doubts as to where the Springdale kids got their poor attitude?

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April 7, 2008 5:32 pm
As regards my comments, I did qualify it with a "seems." I was not at the games to watch what happened, although I do remember the USC game as a bad thing just based on the score.

That said, I do like to get further info from someone who knows, so I appreciate the feedback. The attitude thing is an unknown unless you get to see it in action. I also agree that there are very few HS players that would deserve the kind of commitment you are talking about, but it has happened on a number of occasions. I don't remember the guys involved, but a few years ago some (SEC team I think) school recruited a player and hired his dad to be a coach of some sort (sorry about no links, I just can't remember), so it does happen, even if not justified.

I still think that Houston Nutt was a second tier coach, albeit a stronger recruiter. I don't know for sure how Bobby Petrino will work out, but I suspect our results will be better. I certainly hope so.

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April 7, 2008 8:56 pm
Link for background on coach/father/recruit issues:

Outside the Lines: Recruiting Ethics
(Mitch Mustain goes to UofA)

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/news/story?id=2586464

This article has points both for and against what we have discussed here. You may have seen it previously, but it was the first time I had seen it. I found it while searching for the father/son thing I was talking about. Couldn't find what I was thinking about, but this covers a lot of the same territory.

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April 10, 2008 1:15 pm

roothog66,

      &nbs p;      &n bsp;       Wow. I guess you've got some serious issues. I read you post on the USC page about Mr. Mustain. Going out of your way to bash the kid, aren't you?  I think it's personal for you.The Malzahn offense was never fully implemented and the notion from you that it doesn't work is obviously the perspective of one with bias. Malzahn had the title of OC but we all know he didn't call the plays. Gus had no future here, remember us looking for another OC while he was still here? Do you really think the spread is that inept? Do you watch football other than the Hoggies?  The future is that offense. I think last year Ken Hatfield called up HDN to suggest those "dynamic" plays. There's a reason why our fans are ridiculed in the national media, take a peek in the mirror...it's guys/girls like yourself. Don't hold your breath for the next player of the year to don a Hog uniform.


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April 10, 2008 1:59 pm
Buffaloajax,

   Read more carefully before you post. I believe the spread is the future. I think it could have been the future at Arkansas. The point was that Nutt let Malzahn have control and it wwasn't working for a couple of reasons. The foremost was that we didn't have the talent. Mustain might have eventually evolved into a fine qb (though I doubt he was ever going to be "great"), he was at the time overthrowing receivers and making bad decisions. After being embarrassed at USC and having to hang on and watch the wind knock down a Vandy game-winning field goal, Nutt felt like it was time to retake the play-calling duties. We responded by destroying Auburn. Not to mention we had two of the best runningbacks in the program's history. We would have eventually gotten back to Malzahn's game after McFadden was gone, but it was Nutt's ass on the line and he made the call. If you had been on this board long enough to know better you would have known that I've always thought Malzahn was an offensive genius and I wish he had stayed. We weren't looking for a new OC - Nutt had to offer David the co-OC position to get him (I was also critical of that move), but note that Gus moved on to Tulsa to take a co-OC position. I think it is you that should take a look in the mirror. I'll send you a Tulsa shirt and you can be a Golden Hurricane fan or perhaps you prefer USC?

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April 10, 2008 2:09 pm
The perception that Nutt hired Malzahn just to get Mustain and Williams was a ridiculous one from the start. First, Hiring him as an assistant - maybe. But making him OC was not a move any HC would make for a player or two. I believe Nutt honestly planned to move to the spread. After the USC and Vandy games, though, he realized he needed to win now and not build a new offense for the next season (when he wouldn't be there if we lost more games like the USC and Vandy games). As far as Mustain goes, did any of you watch many of his high school games or his appearance in the Army HS All-Star game? Receivers like Williams made him look better than he was. He threw the ball as far as he could and Williams ran under it. It is the loss of Williams that hurts most. He'll be a backup at USC. He's only the third-best qb they have right now.

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