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March 15, 2008 11:10 am
<table width="732" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0" style="border-collapse: collapse; width: 550pt;" x:str=""> <col width="59" style="width: 44pt;"> </col> <col width="160" style="width: 120pt;"> </col> <col width="122" span="2" style="width: 92pt;"> </col> <col width="98" style="width: 74pt;"> </col> <col width="107" style="width: 80pt;"> </col> <col width="64" style="width: 48pt;"> </col> <tbody> <tr height="36" style="height: 27pt;"> <td width="59" height="36" style="height: 27pt; width: 44pt;" class="xl24"> Year</td> <td width="160" style="width: 120pt;" class="xl24"> Player Name</td> <td width="122" style="width: 92pt;" class="xl24"> Rivals.com Rank</td> <td width="122" style="width: 92pt;" class="xl24"> Home Town</td> <td width="98" style="width: 74pt;" class="xl24"> Pos Recruited</td> <td width="107" style="width: 80pt;" class="xl24"> NFL Team</td> <td width="64" style="width: 48pt;" class="xl24"> Drafted</td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" align="right" x:num="" style="height: 12.75pt;"> 2002</td> <td> Steven Nicholas</td> <td class="xl25"> 2 stars</td> <td> Jacksonville FL</td> <td> LB</td> <td> Atlanta Falcons</td> <td> Yes</td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" align="right" x:num="" style="height: 12.75pt;"> 2002</td> <td> Terrance Royal</td> <td class="xl25"> 2 stars</td> <td> Tampa FL</td> <td> LB</td> <td>  </td> <td>  </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" align="right" x:num="" style="height: 12.75pt;"> 2003</td> <td> Woody George</td> <td class="xl25"> 2 stars</td> <td> Belle Grade FL</td> <td> DE</td> <td>  </td> <td>  </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" align="right" x:num="" style="height: 12.75pt;"> 2003</td> <td> Nick Cobagna</td> <td class="xl25"> 2 stars</td> <td> Clearwater FL</td> <td> DE</td> <td>  </td> <td>  </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" align="right" x:num="" style="height: 12.75pt;"> 2003</td> <td> S.J. Green</td> <td class="xl25"> 2 stars</td> <td> Brandon FL</td> <td> WR</td> <td>  </td> <td>  </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" align="right" x:num="" style="height: 12.75pt;"> 2003</td> <td> Mike Jenkins</td> <td class="xl26"> 3 stars</td> <td> Bradenton FL</td> <td> DB</td> <td>  </td> <td>  </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" align="right" x:num="" style="height: 12.75pt;"> 2003</td> <td> Ben Moffitt</td> <td class="xl25"> 2 stars</td> <td> Bushnell FL</td> <td> LB</td> <td>  </td> <td>  </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" align="right" x:num="" style="height: 12.75pt;"> 2003</td> <td> Patrick St Louis</td> <td class="xl25"> 2 stars</td> <td> Miami FL</td> <td> LB</td> <td>  </td> <td>  </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" align="right" x:num="" style="height: 12.75pt;"> 2003</td> <td> Walter Walker</td> <td class="xl25"> 2 stars</td> <td> Plantation FL</td> <td> DT</td> <td>  </td> <td>  </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" align="right" x:num="" style="height: 12.75pt;"> 2003</td> <td> Trae Williams</td> <td class="xl25"> 2 stars</td> <td> Plant City FL</td> <td> DB</td> <td>  </td> <td>  </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" align="right" x:num="" style="height: 12.75pt;"> 2004</td> <td> Jariette Buie</td> <td class="xl26"> 3 stars</td> <td> Seffner FL</td> <td> DE</td> <td>  </td> <td>  </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" align="right" x:num="" style="height: 12.75pt;"> 2004</td> <td> Richard Clebert</td> <td class="xl26"> 3 stars</td> <td> Miami FL</td> <td> DT</td> <td>  </td> <td>  </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" align="right" x:num="" style="height: 12.75pt;"> 2004</td> <td> Andre Hall</td> <td class="xl27"> 4 stars</td> <td class="xl29"> Garden City KS</td> <td> RB</td> <td> Denver Broncos</td> <td> No</td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" align="right" x:num="" style="height: 12.75pt;"> 2004</td> <td> Antonio Searcy</td> <td class="xl27"> 4 stars</td> <td class="xl29"> Dodge City KS</td> <td> DT</td> <td>  </td> <td>  </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" align="right" x:num="" style="height: 12.75pt;"> 2004</td> <td> Mike Williams</td> <td class="xl25"> 2 stars</td> <td> Seffner FL</td> <td> DB</td> <td>  </td> <td>  </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" align="right" x:num="" style="height: 12.75pt;"> 2005</td> <td> Matt Grothe</td> <td class="xl26"> 3 stars</td> <td> Lakeland FL</td> <td> QB</td> <td>  </td> <td>  </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" align="right" x:num="" style="height: 12.75pt;"> 2005</td> <td> Jessie Hester Jr.</td> <td class="xl26"> 3 stars</td> <td> Wellington FL</td> <td> WR</td> <td>  </td> <td>  </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" align="right" x:num="" style="height: 12.75pt;"> 2005</td> <td> Carlton  Hill</td> <td class="xl27"> 4 stars</td> <td> Monticello FL</td> <td> ATH</td> <td>  </td> <td>  </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" align="right" x:num="" style="height: 12.75pt;"> 2005</td> <td> Amari Jackson</td> <td class="xl25"> 2 stars</td> <td> Sarasota FL</td> <td> WR</td> <td>  </td> <td>  </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" align="right" x:num="" style="height: 12.75pt;"> 2005</td> <td> Taurus Johnson</td> <td class="xl26"> 3 stars</td> <td> Cape Coral FL</td> <td> WR</td> <td>  </td> <td>  </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" align="right" x:num="" style="height: 12.75pt;"> 2005</td> <td> George Selvie</td> <td class="xl25"> 2 stars</td> <td> Pensacola FL</td> <td> OL</td> <td>  </td> <td>  </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" align="right" x:num="" style="height: 12.75pt;"> 2006</td> <td> Carlton Mitchell</td> <td class="xl26"> 3 stars</td> <td> Tampa FL</td> <td> WR</td> <td>  </td> <td>  </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" align="right" x:num="" style="height: 12.75pt;"> 2006</td> <td> Leslie Stirrups</td> <td class="xl27"> 4 stars</td> <td> Tampa FL</td> <td> DT</td> <td>  </td> <td>  </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" align="right" x:num="" style="height: 12.75pt;"> 2006</td> <td> Le Brandon Glover</td> <td class="xl26"> 3 stars</td> <td> Pensacola FL</td> <td> LB</td> <td>  </td> <td>  </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" align="right" x:num="" style="height: 12.75pt;"> 2007</td> <td> Dontavia Bogan</td> <td class="xl25"> 2 stars</td> <td class="xl29"> Thomasville GA</td> <td> WR</td> <td>  </td> <td>  </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" align="right" x:num="" style="height: 12.75pt;"> 2007</td> <td> Mike Ford</td> <td class="xl28"> 5 stars</td> <td class="xl29"> Chatham VA</td> <td> RB</td> <td>  </td> <td>  </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" align="right" x:num="" style="height: 12.75pt;"> 2007</td> <td> Alton Voss</td> <td class="xl26"> 3 stars</td> <td> New Port Richie FL</td> <td> QB</td> <td>  </td> <td>  </td> </tr> <tr height="17" style="height: 12.75pt;"> <td height="17" align="right" x:num="" style="height: 12.75pt;"> 2007</td> <td> Donte Spires</td> <td class="xl26"> 3 stars</td> <td class="xl29"> Poplarville MS</td> <td> LB</td> <td>  </td> <td>  </td> </tr> </tbody> </table>

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March 17, 2008 4:18 pm
ok 97...i have no idea what that is lol...i dont think the copy and paste worked on that one lol

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March 17, 2008 5:34 pm
good point.. man - what kind of gibberish did i post!?!

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March 18, 2008 6:25 pm
its almost readable....but i just cant figure it out...i see names and high schools....but that looks like the breakfast menu of the tokyo mcdonalds....you can see the hashbrown in the picture...but you have no idea what it says...haha

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March 19, 2008 12:58 am

I was able to make some of it out....and a couple ranks stood out:

Steven Nicholas:


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March 19, 2008 1:01 am

Steven Nicholas:  2 stars

Mike Jenkins:  3 stars

Ben Moffitt:  2 stars

Trae Williams:  2 stars

George Selvie:  2 stars

Interesting to me how a 2/3 star duo can become the best cornerback tandem in NCAA football, and how a 2 star recruit can lead the NCAA in both sacks and tackles for a loss.  Leavitt has a serious eye for talent.


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March 19, 2008 10:48 pm
Leavitt has a serious eye for talent.

That's why he just got that contract extension.

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March 30, 2008 1:15 pm
glad you could get past the japanese breakfast menus that copied over!

that i exactly what i was saying - the bulls are constantly having their quality recruits viewed as less than average.

not that public opinion matters all that much, but it speaks volumes of the inaccuracies in these scout sites!

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March 31, 2008 8:41 am

Original Bull - I don't think that the scout sites are inaccurate as such, it's just that there are so many intangibles involved that it's almost impossible to truly rank the kids.  After all, you are talking about 17-18 year olds here - they are not the most mature people in the world.  You don't know how leaving home is going to affect them, how going from big man on campus to being just another player (or even worse, going from BMOC at a high school to BMOC at a major college without playing a single down) will change them, or even how the possibility of growing a few inches and adding 50 pounds will change their play.  It's really a crap shoot - even with the best players.

Another factor is going to be the coaching staff.  Jim Leavitt is a genius at taking players and creating a team, and a team of "average" players will usually beat a group of superstars who are on the field doing their own thing.  Case in point is Dave Wannstedt.  He can recruit with the best of them, but he has yet to show an ability to turn the great recruits into a team.  As a result, he has a squad that consistently under performs.

It's because of these factors that I don't pay a lot of attention to how the various scout services rank the incoming class - you really don't know how the class should be ranked until 2-3 years later when the kids have had a chance to play college ball.  But, people want to know how the incoming classes compare to each other, so the scouting sites are going to give the people what they want, no matter how inaccurate the information may turn out to be.

Go Bulls!