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March 1, 2008 6:09 pm
They have as much right to have their say in a public forum as you do, and the fact that you don't agree with them is not sufficient to censor or silence them.

Ofcourse they are but the guy that started this thread was asking the opinion of other VETS or Active Duty.  You dont ask an Eskimo how great the weather is in southern Fla. because he couldnt tell you. Ask a Native right?

 


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March 1, 2008 6:28 pm

I am a veteran of the Army.  I served in Somalia, Bosnia, and Kosovo.  I know what its like to be stuck somewhere without the "support" of the country.  Heck half the time I was surprised to hear that anyone actually payed enough attention to know where Kosovo was located on the map.  Here is my opinion on the matter.

I think the soldiers have done thier job. They did what they were asked to do and more.  Now I support our soldiers to make it home using any means neccessary.  None of this "Shoot only when shot at" crap.  if there is a shot fired at anyone and the troops hear it... well I say they should lay down a wall of lead so thick that every IED in the area will explode prematurely from the sheer magnitude of it.  I support the troops and think its time for them to come home.  That way we can get back to Afganistan.


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March 1, 2008 6:42 pm

however, we live in a democracy, and if the majority (50% +1) of people want us out, then I accept that as part of being an American...

Think of who is conducting thease polls......MAINSTREAM MEDIA!!!!!!!!

Take it with a grain of salt.............


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March 1, 2008 6:51 pm
I am a veteran of the Army.  I served in Somalia, Bosnia, and Kosovo.  I know what its like to be stuck somewhere without the "support" of the country. 

I think "thanks" are in order, to President William Jefferson Clinton.

 

Our country is in serious trouble pending a Dem. President. Now is not the time to buy into the "change" rhetoric. If you plan on voting Dem.. please stay home and watch American Idol....

 

SGT, LRRS 10th Mountain Light Infantry

 

 


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March 1, 2008 6:58 pm
Wheat is correct.  This is a public board, owned by CBS, and anyone who is a member has the right to post here.  If you don't want to hear what non-veterans have to say, go to one of the boards that restrict membership to veterans only.
There are a million other threads on CBSSL. This one is entitled "veterans only". I'm not sure, but I believe the point of the thread is for veterans to share their "insight" with one another. Someone without a military background can't reasonably contribute. I don't think its rediculous to insist that non-vets stay clear.

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March 1, 2008 7:13 pm
Aggie ... I think you hit the nail on the head.  I am sure that everyone can contribute regaurdless of the background.  Veterans tend to have a view towards other veterans.  The subject is war and us veterans tend to know a thing or two about the subject.

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March 1, 2008 7:40 pm
They dont support the troops in general.

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March 1, 2008 8:14 pm
I appreciate all the comments, both for and against.  Like I said when I started this thread to get the take from people who have been there done that.  I have just been getting tired of hearing the crap that many civilians have said.  It just seems to me that many of them would like to put us in a case with a sign saying "Break Glass Only In The Event Of An Emergency".  I could be wrong but that is my take. 

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March 1, 2008 9:00 pm
There are a million other threads on CBSSL. This one is entitled "veterans only". I'm not sure, but I believe the point of the thread is for veterans to share their "insight" with one another. Someone without a military background can't reasonably contribute. I don't think its rediculous to insist that non-vets stay clear.Liberal academics say the same thing about veterans contributing to academic discussions (if you don't have a Ph.D, your opinion can't contribute - what a crock).  I believe that everyone has a right to be heard, and I argue against shutting out veterans from the discussions in academia just as strongly as I argue against shutting out non-veteran viewpoints here.

It is a public board.

Like I said, I did 20 years and retired.  I believe that they have every right to be here, and until the owner of the board decides to limit access, they apparently believe the same thing.

If you notice, there were only two that posted here (that I noticed) that aren't vets.  If you don't like their posts, hit the little '-' sign and hide them, but they have every right to be here.

I find it disengenuous to claim that we served and fought for our freedoms only to deny it to others because they aren't 'like us.'

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March 1, 2008 9:20 pm

Greg,

I know exactly what you are saying.  I dont think that anyone is trying to say that the Non - veterans are not welcome or cant say thier own mind.  I think the thread was more of a question to the veterans on the board.  It has been mentioned before that the people who have yet to serve may not have the ability to see a veteran's view as he (or she) has not walked in our shoes.  This for the most part is correct.  I am now a veteran.  I admit I have trouble looking at any issue with the same eyes that I looked at the issue before I joined the Army. 

I find the issue here similar to cancer survivors.  If I have not had to endure the treatments and worry that Cancer survivors have to endure, then I can hardly speak for the ones who are going through treatment now. 

After saying that ... You are correct sir.  We should not take away  the individuals right to speak.  Be it veteran or civilian.


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March 1, 2008 9:21 pm

Liberal academics say the same thing about veterans contributing to academic discussions (if you don't have a Ph.D, your opinion can't contribute - what a crock).  I believe that everyone has a right to be heard, and I argue against shutting out veterans from the discussions in academia just as strongly as I argue against shutting out non-veteran viewpoints here.

It is a public board.

Like I said, I did 20 years and retired.  I believe that they have every right to be here, and until the owner of the board decides to limit access, they apparently believe the same thing.

I think the point was already made that "you don't ask an eskimo about the weather in Ft. Lauderdale, FL". I just kinda showed up on the scene, but IMO a thread entitled "vets", discussing issues that only vets would be familiar with, should prob be limited to vets.


If you notice, there were only two that posted here (that I noticed) that aren't vets.  If you don't like their posts, hit the little '-' sign and hide them, but they have every right to be here.

I find it disengenuous to claim that we served and fought for our freedoms only to deny it to others because they aren't 'like us.'

I think you are missing the point. No one is denying "non-vets" any constitutional rights. Just simply asking that only vets participate in one thread among thousands.


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March 1, 2008 9:21 pm
I dont think that anyone is trying to say that the Non - veterans are not welcome or cant say thier own mind.  I think the thread was more of a question to the veterans on the board.  Well said.

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March 1, 2008 9:26 pm
back to the issue at hand.  Anyone got any Chem Light batteries?

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March 1, 2008 9:29 pm
back to the issue at hand.  Anyone got any Chem Light batteries? That joke back-fired on me a while back.. I sent a joe to get some "chemlight batteries" and he actually came back with some!

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March 1, 2008 9:32 pm
ok now your trying to make it backfire on me.   But I gotta know.  How did he come back with Chem light batteries?   The only time I had a joke like that backfire on me was when I sent my soldier off for some grid squares and he came back with a map cut to each of the grid squares.

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March 1, 2008 9:35 pm

Apparently they make battery operated chemlights, now. They run on the same "watch" batteries that M68s use.


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March 1, 2008 9:36 pm