Nevada who?

Thanks for explaining that to me little boy, however I will go ahead and get my information concerning Mormon doctrine from somebody who actually knows how to spell Mormon. Funny how you want to teach me all about my own religion, yet you don't even know how to spell it right. That is truly comical! That's priceless!

Nev, since there are about 13 million Mormons(note the correct spelling) in the world, I would venture to say most of us don't all act, speak, and remark exactly the same way as each other.

Nev, what you don't seem to understand is that I know full well what my church teaches on this subject, and I fully beleive it. You on the other hand are bringing it up in a way as to make fun, belittle, prove cult-like qualities, etc. I have zero respect for you and really don't feel you know much about true Mormonism in the least bit.

BTW, thanks for telling me about how "Mormonism's idea of an open mind is one that is not thinking" I'll tell you what, there is quite a bit that Mormons disagree on, but one thing I am sure we all truly beleive in unison is that You and people like you are a bunch of morons. Thanks for playing pee wee.

Hi BY. care to talk yet? or just puke up more garbage?

I'd love to talk football on this football message board anytime you'd like buddy boy.

Apparently you can't refute anything I say about football however, because it always ends up going back to your bigotry of the Mormon church. Feel free to spew your nonsensical, uninformed garbage all you want. I will continue to laugh at your drivel and consider you an uninformed, bigotted moron.

First off, I ain't your buddy.

Now that we have gotten that straight we can continue. When I first read you blogs BYU I thought well kinda in your face and harsh but some good points made. As I think about it more I'd say most of your blogs come with a 90% truth factor. For example "Nevada is scared" you had some good points about Nev not getting the OK from byu but the 10% that was off base was Nev being scared. ( I'm only arguing your statement that Nev was scared. which of course their not. Not if they passed up Middie byu for the BIG 12 Missouri and Texas Tech....much more formable opponets. Now follow me and lets move on. From your blogs I could tell you were educated but the attitude you displayed is one of being 23 or 24 years old. Now we find out you have been a mormon for 33 years? Man you just havn't grown up or you were booted out of the church for making an **S out of yourself. Which ever it is, is non of my buisness. I'm sure  if old joe smith could see you now he would be disgusted with your attitude and if he wasn't then it proves that he is the spawn of satan. Anyway getting back on track by your nastiness in your blogs I figured you were 24 and dumb to the fact that your football team and Univ. was named after a leader of a cult and I wanted to enlighten you. As you have shown already you already know that mormon's follow a different gospel than what was Preached about in the Bible. Galatians 1:8 And as you know byu mormons believe that they can work their way to a higher heaven and one of the requirements is a two year mission. Well I have my own life long mission and thats to further God's kingdom and dispell cults that mislead good people. That is why we are sending a large group of our youth to your fair state for a conference. But consider this byu I would show up at that conference with your current attitude, you'll only embarres the mormon cult more than you already have. And just for your information I like mormons. nice people they are. I've only met one nasty mormon, and that's you, but take heart byu I'm praying for you and me.

Ok now for a update. Jon Voight has come out with a new movie you should go check it out. It's about the mountain high massicare where the mormon army killed some 123 men woman and CHILDREN OVER THE AGE OF 6 .... might enlighten you. Also there are some great books out just written by the bible answer man Hank H. on mormonism so let me know if your interested I buy one for you on my buck.

One more thing byu I'm not a good speller...as you have noted....congradulations trying to make someone feel bad about their shortcomings....What an example. Please save your time in pointing out my mispelled words I do not care and your mormon heirarchy would not approve of your actions nor would your false god.

God bless

Hah, nev you crack me up dude! I could care less if you can spell good or not, however I find it comical and ironic that you claim to know so much about the Mormon church and want to teach me all about it, but yet you don't even spell Mormon the right way. That sir is true irony and comedy at its best.

Now, what I truly love about you Nev as well as all your anti-Mormon, bigotted chronies, is that you quote your scriptures and talk down to us as though we don't understand Christianity and Christ's teachings, yet you forget a couple of Christs basic teachings. Perhaps Nev, you should study Matthew Chapter 7 tonight and come back tomorrow and let me know what you learned from the savior's teachings about judgeing others. Talk about not understanding Christianity! Matthew Chapter 7 is a basic tenant of christianity that you bigots and anti-Mormons love to overlook.

Nev, perhaps you didn't realise this from your study of the bible, but you my friend apparently have completely misunderstood Christs teachings throughout the New Testament. What's interesting Nev is that nowhere in my readings of the New Testament do I read an example of Christ tearing down another's faith or calling churches of the day Cult's or making fun of local religious leaders. Yet that's basically all I ever hear out of you. How Christlike of you Nev.

Honestly, I could care less whether you like my attitudes on these blogs or not Nev. At least my poor attitude is about football, not religious warfare like you. In your eyes and the eyes of God, which do you think is worse, talking a little trash in fun about college football or making it personal by attacking anothers belief system at every opportunity? Think about that one Nev. Personally, I think Joseph Smith (note correct spelling and name by which he went by) (again showing your ignorance) probably has better more important things to worry about than whether one of the members of his church is talking trash about football on a message board. Thanks for playing that game though little boy.

Unfortunately nev, you are the one who is blinded if you think Mormons follow a different gospel than what is preached in the bible. Bud, that's a matter of interpretation and semantics. I and every Mormon I know believe whole-heartedly in the bible. You will find nothing in the bible that disagrees or disproves Mromonisms teachings, unless you are misinterpreting the scriptures for personal gain. For every scripture you show me in the bible that "dispells" Mormonism, I can show you 3 that prove it to be correct. Unfortunately, you are again misinformed Nev, if you think serving a mission is a requirement for Mormons. It is not. I have plenty of friends, including my own brother who did not serve missions and are in perfectly good standing in the church. Comical that you continue to throw out uninformed, misguided information about Mormonism and expect me to somehow be "enlightened" by you. Nowhere in the teachings of Mormonism has it ever been taught that you must serve a mission in order to gain eternal salvation.

I wish you luck with your mission to SLC. I think you'll find it pretty difficult to convince faithful Mormons to see it your way. Especially with the attitude you have towards Mormons and the LDS Church in general. One thing I learned serving my mission is that when it comes to religion, if you want someone to start believing the way you do, you must first build a trusting relationship with that person. If you don't do that, you might as well talk to the wind on the subject of religion. Every 6 months, the church holds a general conference downtown. Every 6 months, anti-mormon bigots make their way to SLC, to "teach all us poor misguided Mormons, the folly of our ways" I love watching all the faithful Mormons going to conference, walking by these morons and singing hymns to them, or bringing them water, etc. All the while the same morons continue to speak the most vile things possible to the same people showing them love and compassion.

Finally Nev, about Jon Voigt's movie. perhaps you didn't read any of the reviews on that one. You do realize that he took quite a bit of license in making that film right? You do know that Brigham Young has never been linked to what happened at Mountain meadows right? If you believe everything Hollywood sells you, man are you gullible. Let me tell you about Mountain meadows since you obviously have only heard the skewed anti-Mormon view of it.

After years of outrageuos persecution against mormons in this country, they made their way west and settled in Utah. At the time, Mormons were still practicing polygamy. The US government was not happy about that, so they sent an army to SLC to force the Mormons out of polygamy. Some of the early LDs settlers in southern Utah heard that a group was coming through Utah from S. Carolina. Many of the Mormons in southern Utah believed many in the group to have taken part in the mass murder of many Mormon women and children at Hans Mill. They decided to exact some revenge. This was neither sanctioned or known about until it was too late by Brigham Young or the general church leaders, who would never have sanctioned what happened. It is true that a few Mormon men in the area, mixed with Indians murdered most of the members of the traveling party. Was it horrific? yes. Was it a dark day in Mormon history? yes. Was it understandable how these Mormon settlers felt after having their own family members killed by people they thought were in this party? Yes. Does that justify their actions? No. Was the church involved? no. Did Brigham Young know about? Not until after the fact. Did Brigham Young as the Governer of Utah punish the perpetrators for their actions? Yes he did. They recieved the death penalty, which was hanging at the time.

Go ahead and believe what you want Nev, but understand that the movie was not factual and they drew their own conclusions without a shred of evidence. Also understand that "the bible answer man" Hank H. is also a noted anti-Mormon and obviously is not going to give you the straight facts either. Go ahead and purchase me all the books you want, it won't matter. I've read every anti-Mormon book I care to read and none of them effect me, because my faith is based on just that. Faith! God himself would have to come down and tell me that mormonism is not correct in order for me to believe it. Do you know why Nev, because I have found out for myself through study, and prayer that it is true. Would you have me deny what God, by having me tell you that what he witnessed to me is not correct?

Unfortunately for you, in my opinion, just about everything that has come out of your bigotted, uninformed mouth to this point is a joke. You telling me that I believe in a false God is a joke. Hopefully this isn't the same false God that I have a very personal, deep relationship with Nev. The only false God I see around here is the one that is apparently misguiding and misinforming you on the subject of Mormonism. Have a great day nev. I truly hope that one day your God and my God will open your eyes and help you understand true Christian beliefs of love, understanding, charity, hope, faith. Hopefully those are qualities that a true Christian will posess, rather than your best qualities of bigotry, misunderstanding, the attempt to tear down others beliefs, etc.

I will pray for you and all others that share your same belief system Nev.

Solar, unfortantely I don't think you want to get that response from a known anti-Mormon bigot like Nev. Probably not the best source to get a response from.

If you really want to know what Mormons believe, the best way to find out is to go to the source. If I want to learn about Math, I'll go to a Mathematician. If I want to learn about Chemistry, I'll go to a Chemist. Paranthetically, if you want to learn about true Mormonism, don't go to one that hates Mormons and fights against them in all that they do, rather go to the source. Here is a link for you, if you truly want to know about Mormons.

www.lds.org 

Note solar, that the true name of the church is not Mormons. It is The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints.

Solar to answer your question it is a religion started by Joseph Smith. I think you sould go to lds.com as byu backer has suggested. But with all cults or religions claiming to be true including Christanity they should all be tested. Beware of anyone that tries to discredit someone with being closed minded bigot as byu has tried to do with me. I only asked If he knew that mormons believed that you could become your own god and go out into outerspace and populate their own planet. You will not learn that on the lds website but if you want to see if it is the truth invite a mormon missionary and asked him point blank and he will tell you the truth which is yes. The Mormons will try and sell you a bill of goods saying were just like Christians and that we believe the same thing. Well it will be up to you to investigate and see what is closer to the truth. One resource to help you with your search is Equip.org the Bible Answer Man ( Which again because Hank H. has done research and found the mistruths in Mormonism byu backer tries to discredit him by calling hank a anti mormon bigit) If you call the show they have many books on Mormonism including books by authors that have come out of the cult of mormonism and shed the truth about it. Another resourse is Sandra Tanner the great great grand daughter of Brigham Young She also has come out of the Mormon darkness to be a valuable resource in enlighting people of the truth about Mormonism. One more thing Solar, overall I like 99% of the mormons I've met they are good people trying to do right, just misguided. I do not want them to perish in Hell thats why I try an educate people. My point is this, You would not go to david karesh and ask for the truth about being a Christian because he was a false prophet you would and can prove he is a false prophet by the contradictions is his beliefs aka sleeping with all the girls in is compound when they turned the age of 12.  He claimed to be Jesus. You must look at both sides and do some deductive reasoning

Good luck!

Dear BYU,

At least you had enough sand to answer back with a semi intelligent responce, howerver you are only 40% correct on your facts so I will now respond and correct your missteps.

You wanted to use Matthew chapter 7- do not judge or you to will be judge- well first off I am not passing judgement on you as wether or not you are going to Hell. This all started with a simple question do you know mormons believe that they can become thier own Gods( You know of which I speak is true) you then came back calling me a anti-mormon bigot. which I am not I just know the truth about the cult that is momonism. You are however exactly what you claim that I am you will attack anyone that knows the truth about mormonism as a bigot hence you are a anti truth bigot and a anti Christian bigot. There have been so many cults that have come down since Jesus has walked on the earth, David koresh, the group down in Ariz. that thought that when they ate the poison applesauce that they would hitch a ride on the comet, or the Jones guy that led the people down to south America to drink poison koolaid and mormonism and a host of others. We are not judgeing these cults, we are exposing their lies and falsehoods to prove that there is know truth. What do you want us all to stop thinking and execept satans burning in the bosism as truth? Please thats blind faith with subjective and emotional leading to move somebody by feelings.

Next Point reread your new Testiment! Jesus went after the Pharisees (the religious leaders at the time) and the Sadducees ( who did not believe in the resurrection) Because they were not doing what they were charged with. They were wrong on almost all counts and Jesus told them so. Jesus is our example. Byu do not be afraid of the truth and when presented with the truth be man enough to execpt it and repent.

Next point Do you really believe I thought his name was joe smith? I've know is real name for 25 or so years.

Next point. Let's see here.....This is a juicy one...Let's say ( for the sake of discussion) that for one moment is this discussion you are correct. That for ever 1 scripture that contradicts mormons belief that they are true Christians