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Reputation:86
Level:All-Star
Since:Mar 12, 2008

June 10, 2008 12:22 am
Parrish haven't your Roy Hibbert comments stirred up enough???? You keep silently scratching the surface of the leave early /dont stay squabble. That $3.6 million only lasts so long. You keep talking it up but what about the taxes on that at least 30 percent for the wealth percentile(more if obama becomes president by the way....) and by your math he will probably buy a 150,000 dollar house and buys a prius right..then invests right?? Get real....3.6 mil is nothing to a NBA superstar especially if he blows out his knees(already has trouble) and cant play again. About a 2 months ago Espn outside the lines ran a story with Mcgrady about NBA money issues with players, and i am not one to ever harp on espn but maybe you should watch it. These stories you write are garbage(the early entry subject mostly) and I salute the kid because he has a great role model in his brother and he has a level head.


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Reputation:79
Level:Pro
Since:Mar 27, 2008

June 10, 2008 11:32 am
Is it a smarter decision to take the 3.6 mil and not get a college education, or get an additional year of college?  His smart choice would be to take the money (as you point out he has already had troubles with his knee and if he injures it again, there is no chance of getting that 3.6 million back)  If he wants to, he can take the money try his hand at the NBA, then after flopping, go back to college.  For a college player (if he is going to land in the lottery) it is always the smarter move to go early and not risk any injury.

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Reputation:78
Level:Pro
Since:Jul 24, 2007

June 10, 2008 11:48 am
Mr Kansas - I'm not sure who your financial advisor is, but I'd fire him if I were you. Give me $3.6 Million today and I wouldn't have to work another day of my life. I could afford to go back to college and still be rich. I'm glad to hear that a player sticks around, but if only for one year, why??

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Reputation:85
Level:All-Star
Since:Mar 28, 2008

June 10, 2008 12:26 pm

Parrish really is a hypocrite. He basically threw Roy Hibbert under a bus for staying in school and hurting his stock, but is praising Griffin for taking the same risk. And here's the difference:

1. Roy went back as a senior and GRADUATED. Griffin is likely not going back next year for a degree.

2. Roy was coming off a Final Four and many projected his team to make a run at a National Title.

3. Roy led his team to somethign no other Hoya team ahd done-winning back to back league titles.

Yet somehow, Roy is an idiot for going back and getting a diploma in case basketball doesn't work out, a la Jay Williams or countless others. What a joke!


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Reputation:94
Level:All-Star
Since:Feb 8, 2007

June 10, 2008 12:46 pm
Here's my response to the Hibbert stuff in another thread:

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FIrst, Griffin doesn't have the type of game that might be exposed. He's smart, skilled, a good dude and a hard worker who comes from a nice family. So in the same way that Kevin Love wouldn't get exposed in any way with another year of college, neither will Griffin.

Would I do the same thing?

Probably not.

And that's exactly what I wrote.

But the guy I most famously criticized for returning to school -- Roy Hibbert -- returned to school when his stock was at its absolute highest, and that has proved to be a mistake. Frankly, I don't think Griffin's stock is at its highest right now and I don't think he'll be exposed in the next year like I predicted Hibbert would be. Hibbert returned to school and was subsequently in a stronger draft whereas Griffin will be in a weaker draft next year. But I think I made it clear that I think Griffin is "kinda crazy" to turn away that money while acknowledging an Oklahoma guy returning to Oklahoma to play with his brother one more year is a neat story, and I believe that's a fair assessment of the situation.

In short, I wouldn't do what Griffin is doing.

And I'd never advise it.

But I don't think it'll cost him like it cost Hibbert.

Isn't that a reasonable way to look at it?

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Reputation:50
Level:Pro
Since:Feb 12, 2007

June 10, 2008 1:40 pm
I think what often gets overlooked when discussing College players leaving early, is the second contract.  It's the second contract that sets a player for life.  Understandably, 3.6 million is a lot of money and there is no reason someone couldn't live off that for a lifetime, but in my mind a player shouldn't leave until they are ready.  They don't necessarily have to start in their rookie season, but they do need to make an impact otherwise they lose a year or two of development time sitting on the bench and when it's time for that second contract, they miss out.  In Griffin's situation I can understand both sides of the argument.  In 2008 he's mid-lottery pick, but he could improve his stock for 2009.  I've always felt that if you had an opportunity to be a top-10 pick, then go for it.  You'll get picked by a team that cleary needs help, and probably will start immediately, but I can understand Griffin's choice.  While it's a risk, but as Parrish points out, it's a calculated risk.  Bear in mind, there are few injuries that are really career ending in basketball, Kenyon Martin comes to mind.  As an IU fan I'll tell you if I was Eric Gordon's adviser I might tell him to think twice about going pro.  Again, he'll be a mid-lottery pick in 2008.  The difference with Gordon, his stock might slip significantly if he continued to play the way he did towards the end of the season.  However, from what I've read, he hasn't distinguished himself in the pre-draft tryouts, so maybe he could have benefited from another year.
So, if Griffin wants to enjoy college life for 1 more year, who am I to tell him not to.  And if scouts/experts are really saying he's got #1 potential, then it seems to me that staying in school is very much a calculated risk, and one that might be worth taking in the end, only time will tell.

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