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Doesn't look like Kershaw will start Sunday


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Doesn't look like Kershaw will start Sunday
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May 13, 2008 12:36 pm
Yesterday he started for the Suns and it wasn't good.

He gave up 5 earned runs in 3 1/3 innings.  He struck out 3 and couldn't get outs when needed.

In the first inning he let the man from 3rd score off of a wild pitch.

In the 4th inning it seemed like he gave up double after double as they raked in runs.  Then he threw another wild pitch.

His ERA rose from 1.08 before the game to 2.21

Maybe he was just trying too hard to pitch perfect so he can pitch for the Dodgers on Sunday or he just had a bad start.

I don't know what to say but i think he should stay down a little longer to fix some his flaws before we pick him up.

I understand it's one game but imagine if he makes his mlb debut and gives up 5 runs in 3 innings.  His confidence would be way down.  We don't need a 20 year old who is struggling with his confidence because all of the dodger fans and media will be all over him if he has a bad start in the MLB.

Doesn't look like Kershaw will start Sunday
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May 13, 2008 1:36 pm
I have not been a proponent of bringing up Kershaw, as many of you know, but I think you're reading way to much of this one start. He had a bad start..it happens..it isn't the first one he's ever going to have and it isn't the last one he'll ever have as well... If they are basing whether or not he's ready on this one particular start..that is ludicrous considering how well he's done so far.. I don't think he should be brought up yet..but not for that reason.

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May 13, 2008 2:32 pm

Just think of what we would be thinking if he was in the Dodgers rotation and he had a bad game which raised his ERA to only 2.21.  I definitely wouldn't be feeling too badly about it.  Everyone is going to have an off game....the starting rotation this year proves that all too well....so it shouldn't be that big of a deal.  Unless they saw something wrong with his mechanics which was causing the wild pitches, it shouldn't be anything to worry about. 

I'm still trying to make myself hold out as much as possible before I jump on the wagon of wanting Kershaw up.  Hopefully some wins over the Brewers will help ease the anxiety I'm feeling about the rotation right now.


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May 13, 2008 3:02 pm

These things happen with young pitchers. The key is for the coaches to make sure it doesn't get into his head like a Rick Ankiel moment.

Clayton Kershaw will get over this. But the Dodgers should not rush him to the bigs. Protect this guy because he's the cornerstone of the rotation for the next 10 years.

As for trying to compare his AAA ERA to the bigs, you just can't do that. Big League players know how to hit a curve ball and other breaking stuff. Make a mistake as a pitcher and you pay.


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May 13, 2008 4:40 pm

It isn't even an issue to me, big deal. I also think people need to relax on the whole, "I hope he doesn't get shelled, I wonder how he would react".  We all saw how he reacts.  Spring training, he gives up a home run to the first batter he ever faced in a big league uniform.  What does he do?  He strikes out 19 in 14 innings and doesn't allow any more runs for the rest of his time with the Dodgers.  That's how he reacts.  His confidence will not be shaken.


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May 13, 2008 5:15 pm

We can't trade Pierre,Kemp or Either becuase AJones is not delivering. So we can't get another pitcher or a third baseman. Dewitt is doing a good job


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May 13, 2008 6:05 pm

Your right Tremp, it doesn't matter nor does it show anything about tomorrow, next start, next month , next year or a career.  Were of the moment and with that a media that needs a story will blow someone up to make a deadline.  Clayton Kershaw might be something special or he might be just another player in a sea of players in the history of the game.  Baseball is all about the numbers and we as fans will value it now as if it shows a window to the future.  Some don't want Kershaw up because at 20 years old if he fails his delicate skin will turn up and he will lose all that he had before the start.  Hogwash and any other word you might want to use.  The fact is that if Kershaw is the best that we have in our organization, he should be the one to do the deed, now and forever long as he can.  He might be the cornerstone of the organization and just maybe not.  How would you know except to use him.  Wins, loses, walks, hits, strikeouts are all relative but not always a sign of how careers go.  Lets take a few examples.  Cy Young won 511 games in his career, a true mark that he I'm sure he was proud of.  What about his 316 loses.  Now I'm sure if someone told him he would lose 316 times he pitched, he might have thought himself a failure.  Walter Johnson had simular numbers with 417 wins and 270 loses.  OK, so you think that was a different time and the numbers didn't matter.  Lets take Nolan Ryan, the guy with 7 no hitters and 12 one hitters and the all time strikeout leader with 5714 in his career.  I guess the fact that he flat out walked 2795 guys and threw 277 wild pitches didn't happen the Hall of Hamers.   The fact is you win some battles and lose others and that goes for each individual batter in every single game.  I think Kershaw can survive a beating and probably better then most of us.  A hitter on the other hand fails 6 out of ever 10 times and that goes for every Hall of Famer.  Ty Cobb, The Georgia Peach had 4189 hits in his career but crap that was out of 11434 at bats.  He failed a lot in his career.  Except we know that his .366 batting ave is pretty good.  Even at that he had a .961 fielding average and made a stupid 278 errors, the bum. 

See my point?  If Clayton Kershaw is the 5th best pitcher in the Dodgers organization then use him.  Properly at first for sure but use him for sure.  If its James McDonald then use him.  He will fail and alot I'm sure and if you or I or him can't stand to fail, then don't ever get a job, because everyone learns more by failure than by success.  Go Dodgers beat the Brewers.


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May 20, 2008 6:24 pm
  The new rumor has been that CK might get called up to start the 26th and 31st next week. I say DO IT! I think he certainly is (at least) the 5th best SP and as an organization you have to use him in one capacity or another. His poor start in triple A was IMO a result of moving back/forth from the pen. He'll take his lumps as a rookie, everyone does, but the sooner he gets in the show the sooner he'll be comfortable there.


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May 20, 2008 11:29 pm
that would be great to see CK pitch soon, I wonder whose roster spot he takes? Cause when Jones goes on the DL (most likely) Furcal will take the spot. So who goes? Loaiza? he makes a rehab assignment and then gets DFA? I dunno.