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Is that if you don't self-report yourself, then the NCAA wont care.
PATHETIC!!
So paying players is more tolerated than making too many calls to recruits?
I sure hope not.
What does that say?
It's okay to send checks to recruits, just not too many texts.
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If the NCAA hopes to maintain some level of character and dignity in college basketball, they have to come down hard on this. On the school, on the coach, and on the player.
Otherwise, the best teams will become the best teams (that money can buy).
(if they aren't already).
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I agree with you that this isn't acceptable. However, recruiting violations like texting and a player receiving benefits from an outside source aren't exactly the same. Sampson, for example, knew exactly what he was doing, knew what he was doing was wrong and did it anyway. Floyd probably had a good idea, but didn't actually KNOW that Mayo was receiving benefits. It's a little harder deny knowledge of this kind of thing in basketball, I think, since the team is so much smaller.
That being said, coaches and institutions still can't go around holding their players hands 24/7. If a player and a booster are determined to violate the rules, the university is not going to be able to stop them. It's going to take a dumb move on the part of those partaking in the collusion for them to be caught.
So, since universities aren't able to keep players from doing this, what would you all think if a university was able to sue the former player for the damages they incur from that player's irresponsibility? As it is now, players like O.J. Mayo and Reggie Bush get off free while their former university faces sanctions from the NCAA.
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I agree with you that this isn't acceptable. However, recruiting violations like texting and a player receiving benefits from an outside source aren't exactly the same. Sampson, for example, knew exactly what he was doing, knew what he was doing was wrong and did it anyway. Floyd probably had a good idea, but didn't actually KNOW that Mayo was receiving benefits. It's a little harder deny knowledge of this kind of thing in basketball, I think, since the team is so much smaller.
That being said, coaches and institutions still can't go around holding their players hands 24/7. If a player and a booster are determined to violate the rules, the university is not going to be able to stop them. It's going to take a dumb move on the part of those partaking in the collusion for them to be caught.
So, since universities aren't able to keep players from doing this, what would you all think if a university was able to sue the former player for the damages they incur from that player's irresponsibility? As it is now, players like O.J. Mayo and Reggie Bush get off free while their former university faces sanctions from the NCAA.
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Reputation:93
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Since:Feb 7, 2007
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I agree with you that this isn't acceptable. However, recruiting violations like texting and a player receiving benefits from an outside source aren't exactly the same. Sampson, for example, knew exactly what he was doing, knew what he was doing was wrong and did it anyway. Floyd probably had a good idea, but didn't actually KNOW that Mayo was receiving benefits. It's a little harder deny knowledge of this kind of thing in basketball, I think, since the team is so much smaller.
That being said, coaches and institutions still can't go around holding their players hands 24/7. If a player and a booster are determined to violate the rules, the university is not going to be able to stop them. It's going to take a dumb move on the part of those partaking in the collusion for them to be caught.
So, since universities aren't able to keep players from doing this, what would you all think if a university was able to sue the former player for the damages they incur from that player's irresponsibility? As it is now, players like O.J. Mayo and Reggie Bush get off free while their former university faces sanctions from the NCAA.
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Sorry about that, my computer was acting weird.
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However, recruiting violations like texting and a player receiving benefits from an outside source aren't exactly the same. Sampson, for example, knew exactly what he was doing, knew what he was doing was wrong and did it anyway.Sampson actually "claimed" to not know he was breaking rules.
It's naive to think Floyd didn't know this was going on. (just as it would be naive to think Sampson didn't know he was breaking rules.) Also, even in the highly unlikely case that Floyd didn't know, he would have had to be completely ignorant to the goings-on of his program. Because of the liability of the coach when it comes to the legitimacy of a program, it is his job to know these kind of things, and if he didn't, that shows severe negligence.
If a player and a booster are determined to violate the rules, the university is not going to be able to stop them.
Prevention is difficult, but the way to stop it, is by coming down hard when you've caught them. That is why it's essential to punish the player, the coach, and the school. Give due punishment, and maybe other programs/players/coaches doing the same thing will think twice about doing it again.
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This is MUCH worse that phone calls. We are talking cold hard CASH, and the part that is not being talked about is the possibility of point shaving. If they had him that tied up, then they most certainly could have had him shaving points......this could get really ugly fast.
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The difference between Sampson and Floyd is active vs. passive participation. Sampson orchestrated the phone calls and illegal recruitment of players. He was a knowing participant of luring kids to his school. Floyd was niave at best and looking the other way at worst. As the article states, the money paid to Mayo had absolutely nothing to do with him attending USC or playing for coach Floyd. The money paid had everything do to with exposure and the schools location in LA. If IU were located in LA, he might have gone there. Remember this wasn't money to get him to go to USC, it was money to get him to sign with BDA. BIG difference.
Had a USC booster paid Mayo this would be a different story.
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