No wonder why he Sun Times is going bankrupt with the crappy columnists they hire, Slezak, Marriotti and Telander they all suck.
Guillen was dead on when he called marriotti a f a g (how long till CBS deletes this post?) Slezak is a raging bi tch who simply likes to rant, and im fairly confident Telander and Couch are AT LEAST 83% retarded.
Be fair thats all any reader really wants
Whatever happened to real journalists?
I've yet to read one lately. Seems the last one I saw Mike Royko......too bad. The occasional fresh story or perspective would also be nice.
No wonder why he Sun Times is going bankrupt with the crappy columnists they hire, Slezak, Marriotti and Telander they all suck.
Guillen was dead on when he called marriotti a f a g (how long till CBS deletes this post?) Slezak is a raging bi tch who simply likes to rant, and im fairly confident Telander and Couch are AT LEAST 83% retarded.
Be fair thats all any reader really wants
The occasional fresh story or perspective would also be nice.
Whatever happened to real journalists?
I've yet to read one lately. Seems the last one I saw Mike Royko......too bad.
I understand You want to bash anybody that says a negative about your team, But I only ask reporters to report the news and not create the news. I also ask that players are accountable for their actions and not given a free ride because they are a supposed to be professional men and not little boys. I say this about my Cubbies as well as all the other players in MLB as well as other sports.
Reporters don't report news they are looking to create hype to sell papers or build ratings. Their job is to report it? The Sox Players took a chance and it got reported. I am probably more irked at Ozzy language and the Cubs celebration on the anniversary of Lee Elia tirade more than the Blowup Doll thing. Baseball in a Billion dollar corporation that gets a free ticket to violate the FCC, numerous harrasment laws and the only excuse is boys will be boys?
The players and management are paid as professionals and should act as professionals. The players continually put themselves above the law and the same excuse is used over and over. The players eventually think that they literally can get away with anything. Then, when a reporter does report the incident, fans support the player better than they would their own family. I also realize that the majority of players are professionals and promote themselves as role models. It is not like the Sox players don't do good, it is just that like the Tank Johnsons, Sammy Sosas, it is just that whenever they do something good, it seems like something bad is about to be found out.. I also usually give the benefit of doubt, like with Cedric Benson.
The truth of the matter is it happened and the same reporters who will say a football player should not go out on a boat over the weekend with a few friends and have a few beers, is the same to say boys will be boys. . All these guys are Professional men not boys. The Sox were wrong, Yes. The reporters reported the incident Yes. Should it have been front page, NO. Did the players think about taking it down or did they treat it like a sexist joke first? The media usually protects these highly paid professionals so often, that everything about athletes is about excuses. When it gets out, fans say it isn't so because they don't believe it. Then you have the same media, when they don't like the player or his abilities to blame the player by piling on like Jay Moron-etti saying the player should not put himself in an awkward position after a player is arrested? Of Course he has opinionated many times the Bears should Dump Cedric. My opinion is the Bears should keep him (his rights at least) thru the trial, and make a professional decision by the outcome and his performance.
By the way, way to go to the Sox players going pink for Mothers Day. It is about time positive news was reported on the players. And Yes I did watch the final innings of Gavin's gem. Came close, and Swisher never gave up trying.
You are wrong yet again GW. Who said that nothing negative can be said about this team? If you look at the recent topics posted, we're all bashing this team. We're even criticizing our own broadcasters for coming up w/ excuses for this team. If I'm not mistaken, it was your precious Cubs team that could not accept criticism from their broadcasters in '04, and as a result, Steve Stone and Chip Carrey are no longer working for that organization.
With that said, the Sox did nothing wrong in this recent "soap opera" that the Sun Times has conceived. They're baseball players. They didnt cheat or do anything else that is considered illegal in baseball. And what does being professional have anything to do with what some would consider "raunchy" humor in the clubhouse? It's the freaking clubhouse! They're professionals on the field and like I stated earlier, what they did was not illegal so therefore they're still professionals. They had a little fun. So what? You cannot compare blow up dolls w/ resisting arrest or any of the other ILLEGAL off the field matters that go on in the NFL.
And what is it w/ people like you that shove this role model garbage down athletes' throats? Who said that kids should be looking up to ball players? For god sakes, they hit a ball w/ a stick. What is admirable about that? Did the players ever ask for that? If fans are that prude (like you) and cant handle the humor in the Sox clubhouse, stop buying their jerseys.
"Reporters don't report news they are looking to create hype to sell papers or build ratings. Their job is to report it? The Sox Players took a chance and it got reported."
Yes, it got reported. A blurb in both the Trib and Suntimes. Then Slezak writes her piece, which is opinion, not fact, and it blows up the incident. And again...SHE WAS NOT THERE! NO WOMEN WERE!
"Baseball in a Billion dollar corporation that gets a free ticket to violate the FCC, numerous harrasment laws and the only excuse is boys will be boys? "
The players/coaches aren't violating the FCC because they are not the one's on the radio/TV. It is the media who is covering them hoping to get a juicy nugget so they can broadcast it. And who did they harrass that was in the clubhouse, please give me the womans name.
"The players continually put themselves above the law and the same excuse is used over and over. The players eventually think that they literally can get away with anything."
You are clearly lumping all pro atheletes together and equating Benson wrestling with cops and getting arrested to someone putting a blowup doll in their own private space. We are talking about the Blow up doll incident and how the media blew this out of proportion.
Then, when a reporter does report the incident, fans support the player better than they would their own family. I also realize that the majority of players are professionals and promote themselves as role models."
I have to disagree, players do not promote themselves as role models. The media does, and most of them understand this. But a small % can not handle it and do stupid stuff.
This was nothing more than a hypocricy and horrible journalism by the Suntimes. Why don't you look at the Suntimes sports section and see if you can pick out the Hypocricy between the front page story and the sports section. Better yet, Mike Downey has already done that:
Blyleven defends White Sox doll hijinx
Twins broadcaster derides lack of clubhouse privacy
By Scott Merkin / MLB.com
CHICAGO -- Bert Blyleven remembers a time when any sort of off-color incident taking place in the clubhouse never would have been talked about outside of the baseball safe-haven, let alone become a national controversy on the scale of what has happened with the White Sox over the past four days.
With that thought process in mind, the Twins television analyst and legendary hurler spoke up on behalf of the White Sox during an interview Wednesday on ESPN 1000's Waddle and Silvy radio show in Chicago, with hosts Tom Waddle and Marc Silverman.
"There used to be a saying in each clubhouse. It says, 'What you say here, what you hear here, when you leave here, that it stays here,'" Blyleven said. "It's a shame that doesn't happen anymore.
"I came up in 1970. You know, we used to know pretty much all the beat writers. They were kind of part of the family. And now with so many writers in there, so many writers wanting to get their name in the papers somehow, it's a shame that that came out.
"All it was is something in fun, you know? Just try to loosen up the guys a little bit," Blyleven added. "You're with these guys for nine months out of the year. You're with these guys, you know ... you want to play practical jokes on each other but you can't do that anymore because it's going to be in the paper, and especially if you are on a six-game losing streak or a five-game losing streak at the time."
Blyleven, of course, is referring to the controversy stemming from the White Sox positioning two blow-up dolls in the Rogers Centre visitors' clubhouse on Sunday, moving their bats around the dolls, in an attempt to break out of an offensive slump covering their entire six-game road trip. The situation didn't receive much media attention on Wednesday, following Tuesday's whirlwind of coverage, aside from an Associated Press story stating that Major League baseball considered this a team issue and not a league issue.
The article also included a reference to an e-mail from the president of the Association for Women in Sports Media sent to the Chicago Sun-Times, voicing its concerns about the White Sox conduct. A White Sox spokesperson said general manager Ken Williams' comments on the matter Tuesday spoke for the organization.
White Sox manager Ozzie Guillen didn't talk much about the controversy on Wednesday, other than to reiterate that he had no regrets over the handling of what was supposed to be an in-house joke or prank.
"I don't feel guilty about anything," Guillen said. "The only regret I have [in my career] was A-Rod, making that kid suffer. I was telling the truth, but I didn't have the right to put that kid on the spot.
"That was a [garbage] thing on my part; that was low-class. That's why I apologized. I never start anything. I started it with Alex, and that's why I regret it. Everything else, ... no, because I know I was right."
During Wednesday's radio interview, Blyleven added how he likes Guillen, likes the manager's explosiveness and likes how he takes the media's attention away from his players. Guillen takes on extra media onus when the White Sox are struggling.
Basically, this 22-year-veteran and owner of 287 victories doesn't believe Guillen or the White Sox should be assailed for their clubhouse fun.
"It's a shame that something like that is out there," Blyleven said. "That these people come in that don't have [any] idea. They've never worn a jock in their life, and they don't know what it takes.
"Nobody meant anything by it. It was just try to ... 'Let's take the jinx off the bats, let's go guys, and have some fun.'"
Also, like most sportwriters in this town, you go with which way the wind is blowing. In your first post, you bash Benson, as guys like Telander did, before you knew the facts. In your second post, you start defending Benson, only because you now find out some people are coming to his defense. Here is a thought: know what the hell is going on, and then form an opinion on it ! You contradict yourself in the same thread..beautiful.
Lots of writers share the "all professional athletes are criminals" point of view that you have, when if you study the facts, athletes commit crimes at a rate lower than the general population. The difference is, EVERY thing that an athlete does wrong...speeding ticket etc, is reported by the media now, and there is an opinionated columnist who's sole purpose in life is to bash that athlete before the facts come out.
The original post was that the Sun Times writers suck, because they don't report the facts, exaggerate the bad, and rarely report the good off the field stuff. If an athlete does something very bad (i.e. Michael Vick) he deserves to pay, and usually does. This doll incident,. and again dolls are not living creatures, is nothing like that.
Athletes are actually held more accountable than the general public, since everything they do is reported and bashed, so no, I don't think they get away with anything.
