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May 4, 2008 9:50 pm
howlongsit been. I try not to respond to ridiculous posts which is why I didnt respond to yours but here goes.  How can you say florida looked schizo from week to week? That would be to say that they looked great and then looked like crap. As you can see by their schedule(that you posted) they were pretty consistent throughout the year. Not awesome, but consistent. They werent in ANY blowouts except against a couple of OOC cupcakes. How is that schizo? How is that not as consistent as you can get? They consistently played in low scoring close games. Meyer admittedly played a conservative type offense that year because Chris Leak couldnt run the offense Meyer wanted to run.  Then you bring up last years Michigan team as "elite"? WHAT?? ELITE?   If thats your definition of "elite" then maybe WVU is elite. I dont hear any Michigan fans bragging about that team. We are talking about elite teams not elite programs. BTW WVU is neither! Then you bring up USC last year. First off, they didnt play for the NC now did they? Mainly because that loss! Losses like that take you out as an elite team for atleast that year. Whens the last time a national champ lost to really weak team like pitt or stanford. I never happens!                                                                   As for your second post, you say that you are not arguing that WVU would win the sec or that OU was the best team last year. I NEVER SAID YOU WERE!! This is the first time ive responded to you atleast on this thread so what in the *ell does that have to do with anything?  "Arrived means you have been to the top. Yes, Michigan and Alabama have lost ALOT of luster in recent years but they can atleast say that they were both on top many times and will be again. WVU has NEVER been on top and if you guys think that your current level is "elite" then you  NEVER WILL  BE ON TOP!!!!  WOW!!

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May 4, 2008 9:54 pm
   Im sure thats its all of us "ignorant" fans who doesnt think that WVU could have "blown out" OSU who are in the wrong. Not the handful of WVU fans who think they could have.

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May 4, 2008 10:16 pm
howlongsit been. I try not to respond to ridiculous posts which is why I didnt respond to yours but here goes. Ladies and gentlemen, the definition of irony.

How can you say florida looked schizo from week to week?

Re-read my original post.  That's how.  The Gators struggled to beat the Gamecocks, narrowly escaping with a victory over a South Carolina team whose only victories that season came over the following juggernauts: Middle Tennessee, Wofford, Florida Atlantic, and that year's SEC cellar-dwellers, Kentucky, Vandy, and Mississippi State (teams that finished a combined 15-21 that year).  Their most notable win was over an 8-5 Clemson team that lost its bowl game. 

Then they pasted their next opponent 62-0.  Following that, they again had great difficulty with a Florida State team that went 6-6 in its regular season, before going on to a convincing victory in the National Championship game (with a solid win over Arkansas in between). 

That's how.
Then you bring up last years Michigan team as "elite"? WHAT?? ELITE?   If thats your definition of "elite" then maybe WVU is elite. I dont hear any Michigan fans bragging about that team. We are talking about elite teams not elite programs. BTW WVU is neither!Hey, how'd they do in their bowl game against Florida?  Can you refresh my memory?
Then you bring up USC last year. First off, they didnt play for the NC now did they? Mainly because that loss! Losses like that take you out as an elite team for atleast that year. Whens the last time a national champ lost to really weak team like pitt or stanford. I never happens!   So by elite, you merely mean the team that won the National Championship?  Sounds like a definition not a whole lot of people would agree with.  There's only one elite program each year?
As for your second post, you say that you are not arguing that WVU would win the sec or that OU was the best team last year. I NEVER SAID YOU WERE!! This is the first time ive responded to you atleast on this thread so what in the *ell does that have to do with anything?It's called a qualifier/disclaimer. 
"Arrived means you have been to the top. Yes, Michigan and Alabama have lost ALOT of luster in recent years but they can atleast say that they were both on top many times and will be again.So Minnesota, Army, and Yale have arrived, while Louisville and South Florida have not.  Is that correct? 




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May 5, 2008 8:52 am
Not that it matters, but Pitt wasn't 4-8; they were 5-7 and had 4 losses by a touchdown or less. 

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May 5, 2008 9:21 am
   howlongsitbeen   WOW!! Why dont you ask some non big east AND non SEC fans if WVU is"elite". You wont be happy with the answer. You tell me what WVU has done to be "elite". Name more than a couple of really big wins in SCHOOL HISTORY!!!  You cant!  As far as Florida being schizo, Imj not going to argue that point again. Im not sure how you can compare a close win over a bowl team and a blowout win over Western Carolina and say that either one wasnt as expected. I can tell you Florida fans EXPECTED to get all they could handle from Spurrier just as we do this year and we EXPECT yo kick off in the Citadels 8ss after the SC game this year also.Thats not called schizo, thats called different competition. As far as Michigan being elite, Yes they beat Florida and as a Gator fan, I can tell you that We didnt consider our 2007 team to be "elite" either. IT WAS A REBUILDING YEAR COMING OFF THE NC!!!!!! THE NC!!!! SOMETHING WVU HAS NEVER WON AND NEVER WILL!!!!! In your next "point you ask if theres only one "elite" program each year. Ive already said that we are talking elite teams not elite programs but ill indulge anyways.  Even elite programs have down periods but YES at some point you have to win a NC to be an elite program!!! Ang finallly  YESSSS!! there was a time when ARMY ,Minnesota andYale were elite programs but youve never heard me call NCs from before WWII as valid. And NO!!! South Florida and Louisville havent arrived. Why dont you start a thread asking if South Florida and Louisville have arrived as "elite" programs. Non Big Least fans will let you know that the answer is NO!!  If you want to feel otherwise, that is your right and Im not going to try and change your mind, but you shouldnt try to sell that to fans of elite programs because they arent going to buy it.

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May 5, 2008 9:25 am
JSS  I stand corrected 5-7. Would have been 4-8 had they played an elite team in that last game as my counterpart claims.

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May 5, 2008 9:29 am
WVU has NEVER been on top and if you guys think that your current level is "elite" then you  NEVER WILL  BE ON TOP!!!!  WOW!! If WVU played their regular season like they do their bowl games they would probably have a championship under their belt.  Put OU instead of WVU in that sentence and turn it around and OU would probably have more than one...

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May 5, 2008 9:35 am
I think the idea that the top teams in all the conferences in any given year could be the top in any other conference has some merit. In that given year you would expect that team to be one of the best in your schools history.  I'm not sure bowl games are a good indicator of conference vs conference but it is one of the things we have to use as an evaluation tool.  

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May 5, 2008 10:10 am