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Unless you are not counting the Big East as a big league, in which case, I'd agree.
Well, if that comment doesn't show why you are here. Go out with the other kids and ride your bike. Go take your hate somewhere else.
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WVUDAD I just cant buy that ALL BCS conference champs are top tier teams. Was Wake Forest in 2006 an elite team. Sometimes conferences go through down periods. In these down periods, a really mediocre team can get a couple of breaks during the season and easily win a weak conference. I would agree that MOST of the time, a BCS conference champ is a very quality team but we do see variances from that.
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WVUDAD I just cant buy that ALL BCS conference champs are top tier teams
I said in TWO posts in this thread already MOST YEARS
Was Wake Forest in 2006 an elite team.
Would it have been any different had it been Miami, FSU, or VT?
You are caught up in a name, WF was the best the ACC had that year, yet they are belittled for being called Wake rather than one of those other teams. A few years ago NW won the B11, it was said that NW had got stronger, not that the rest had got weaker.
Had one of the three big names won the ACC that year, they would be termed elite, how do you know that WF would not have won another league that year.
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I agree that all BCS leagues have a good team rise to the top. But it is a lot easier in the Big East compared to the SEC. Thats not to say WVU didn't have a really good team last year, it's saying that the chance of getting beat by Uconn or Rutgers is not the same as say Georgia or Florida.
I don't want to make this is the Big East overrated or under rated that thread already exist, but I will say it would help your arguement if notre Dame would join the Big East in Football. It really hurt when some of the best in the Big East left.
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You say bowls are meaningless, BS, you say they are meaningless when your team or teams lose. BUT I bet if your team wins, they mean everything. You might make an argument that the lesser bowls pitting 6-6 teams are meaningless, but chief, the teams in the big bowls are there to win. Ask your coach how meaningless it was to lose to us in the Sugar bowl,
The SEC is 13- 5 in the last two years in bowl games, and Georgia has only lost 2 bowl games in 11 years, so what are you talking about?
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West Virginia is good, and could compete in other Conferences, but I don't think they would win any other Conferences. Hell, they can't get through the Big East without two losses. The fact is that the other teams, besides WV, in the Big East are just not consistant enough to be taken seriously anywhere else. Georgia Southern would finish second or third in the Big East.
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The '06 Sugar Bowl was about as meaningless as any game ever played, just as the '08 Sugar was. The only difference is that we came to play last year, and we came for a party in '06. But, meaningless either way.
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(1) I agree with the statement that the conference champion from any BCS league would finish at or near the top of any other BCS league, but I wouldn't go so far as to say that the top team from the Big XII is always better than the second-place team from the SEC, etc. I heard your caveat about most years. I think saying, "at or near the top" covers it.
(2) bookdawg10, your arguments are asinine. The size of a team's stadium means precisely zilch in terms of a given team's quality. Virginia Tech plays in front of around 66,000 fans... go ahead and ask visiting teams if that's an easy place to play. Appalachian State, on the other hand, pulled off their upset in a stadium that seats 111,000. Yes, larger stadiums tend to be louder and more hostile environments, making it more difficult to win, but your dismissal of teams because of the size of their stadium? Inane.
The following teams were ranked in the Top 25 at some point last season: West Virginia, Louisville, Rutgers, Connecticut, South Florida, and Cincinnati... that's fully SEVENTY-FIVE percent of teams in the Top 25 in one season (I'm not arguing they were all top 25 programs by season's end). The SEC would have to get 12 of its teams ranked to achieve a similar feat.
West Virginia flies down to play Georgia in a BCS Bowl... IN GEORGIA, and Bulldawg fans dismiss it as the weakest SEC Champion/Georgia team in years. South Florida comes to Jordan-Hare at night and beats Auburn in front of a national audience, and it's written off as a fluke.
No one with any sense would claim that the Big East is as deep or talented as the SEC. No one is purporting that programs like Rutgers and South Florida approach the tradition and sustained excellence of Michigan and Ohio State. What is being argued, and what nearly all knowledgeable BCS fans will agree, is that the Big East has emerged as a very good conference, deserving of its automatic bid, and that at the end of the day, belonging to the Big East gets you the EXACT same amount of points at the start of every game that being a member of the SEC gives you...
Zero.
Decide it on the gridiron. IIKOY??
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i know WF would not have won any real conference that year because I can watch a football and judge how good of a team I am viewing. WF isnt a big name and thats not what Im basing my opinion on. Im basing my opinion on what I saw when I watched their games. They clearly had second tier talent. I didnt see one skill position player that impressed me the way most elite teams skill position players do. waht you said in your opening thread is that "with very little exception" all bcs conf champs are top teams. Then you list the champs from last year. WVU, OU, VT, and in my opinion. OSU would NOT have a chance in the SEC last year. That is NOT "very few exceptions". Did you see the LSU/ VT game????? It was 48-7 LSU. And VT would have won the SEC? OU was schizophrenic , looked great one week, lousy the next. Ask Florida if you can win the SEC playing like that. I know your opinion may differ, but most people dont feel WVU would have won the SEC. We wont get into the OSU thing, but they did play the SEC champ head to head and we know what happened there. Sounds to me like there is 2 or 3 dominant conferences right now.
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