2008-2009 Prediciton

Here are some EARLY predicitons for next season

Starting Lineup

1. Trevon Hughes
2. Jason Bohannon
3. Joe KRabbenhoft
4. Marcus Landry
5. Jon Leuer

Next years starting five is more athletic and more versatile on offense but not quite as good on defense. Look for more points next year but look for them to give up a few more as well.

Key Reserves (in order)

1. Keaton Nankivil - PF - the kid probably should have gotten more minutes this year but didn;t and in hindsight should have redshirted but oh well. He has a Big Ten body, and can rebound like a beast. Look for him to spell Landry at PF and Leuer, Badgers could very well go "smaller" with Nankivil playing like a Mike Wilkinson type center forward at times
2. Robert Wilson - SG/SF - If this kid is as good as his billing he could come in and be one of the key reserves off the bench right away. He is long and athletic, he is known for suuperb defensive skills while also being a quality scoring options. He is alot quicker than Jarmusz and alot more athletic, and with his size he could play the 2 or the 3 spot for Bo, look for Wilson to get his minutes next year
3. Jared Berggren - PF/C - Good size, good athleticism, can play inside or out but has a thicker body so he can more readily play inside. Can see minutes at both PF and Center so his versatility will make him valuable for Bo off the bench along the front line.
4. Jordan Taylor - PG - Hughes will be getting a majority of the minutes and JBo's ability to run the point will also see him playing minutes at PG but overall the lack of guard depth necessitates that Taylor see some minutes throughout the regular season (You here that Bo, ready or not play the kid, you probably will need him in March)
5. Tim Jarmusz - SG - Sorry Tim, you were in the right place at the right time this year but unfortunately next year you won't be, your PT this year make you rethink transferring but it shouldn't. Your experience in the system and on the court say you might get some minutes but I just don't think you are quick enough or a good enough defender to stave off Wilson next year so don't look for a dramatic increase in playing time your sophmore year. This leads to your likely transfer at semester break.
6. Kevin Gullickson - F - your a senior so you can't tranfer. you lost your schollie, you;ve always been marginal. I suspect you stick around, your good for teh scout team but your days of significan PT are over. Noce to know you.
7. JP Gavinski - see my thread on why/if he should transfer
8. Ian Markoff - C - bog body, very physical. still has alot of work to do in all areas. he is a better bigger version of Gavinski. Markoff SHOULD and hopefully will redshirt
9. Ryan Evans - SF - a great late addition too next years class. I see alot of potential in Evans and he'll be a big contributor before it is over, just not likely next year. Evans will do well to redshirt and allow Krabbenhoft to graduate. The next year Jamil Wilson (if he comes) will start at the 3 spot and Evans will be a significant back up for Wilson for two years. After two years Wilson goes pro and Evans takes over as a starter at the 3 spot as a 3rd year junior.
10. Cain & Valentine are your walkon scout teamers yet again (that is 16 total players, and there is your roster)

Record

I actually look for the Badgers to match this years regular season record of 26-4  and their Big Ten conference record of 16-2, this will be good for a share of the Big Ten title. I suspect another trip to teh Big Ten tourney title game, but with a possible loss lingering in that game this time around. So a final record of 28-5 going into March Madness and another 3 seed likely looming as the reward.

Post Season Accolades

Badgers place atleast 1 and maybe two kids on first team all big ten. The two in question are likely Hughes and Landry. Krabbenhoft gets a secodn team nod and another year on teh all-defensive squad. Jason Bohannon gets a look on third team all big ten while Leuer cracks into the honorable mention category.

Nice post Kaara.  This may very well be how the roster shakes out.  Although, it seems very unclear how the 5 spot will wind up and who will get the reserve guard/small forward minutes.  With Nankivil's defense and rebounding it is not out of the realm of possibility that he sees the starting role at center.  And, I think Jarmusz got the leg up on everyone else for a good chunk of the G/SF minutes. 

Once again I am amazed at how flexible Ryan's system is and the possibilities and interchangeable parts.  Really with Jarmusz's size he can play the 3 and stretch the defense on the perimeter like we have not seen with Krabbenhoft.  I think Bo would be very comfortable playing Bohannon at the 1 with Jarmusz  at the 2.  Jason's blossoming ability to create his own shot makes that prospect viable.  The question would become defense, but Bohannon got a lot better this year and Jarmusz obviously passed Leuer in Bo's mind for defensive responsibility. 

Think about the outside shooting potential of next year's team.  Leuer looks capable of equaling if not passing Butch's 3 point  efficiency.  Bohannon will be another year's worth better.  Landry really came on toward the end of the this season from 3 pt range.  Add to that more minutes for Jarmusz, who shot 3's at a 50% clip in highschool.  And also hopefully Trevon's shooting woes toward the end were ankle induced so his numbers will be better.  This could be a very fun team to watch from the arc.  Maybe we'll get a chance to shoot down Duke at the Kohl Center next year.

YOU LAME!  I was going to start this thread after I handed in my paper tomorrow.  Oh well, here's my take on it.

Starting Lineup

• Trevon Hughes
• Jason Bohannon
• Joe Krabbenhoft
• Marcus Landry
• Jon Leuer

I agree with you for the most part.  I'd put money on Pop, JBo, Krabbs, Landry, and Leuer being the starting five to begin the year.  But depending on how far Leuer progresses during the offseason on his inside game and body I can see Berggren taking his spot when the Big Ten season comes around.

Key Reserves
I'll do this a bit differently.  By position, including starters, and only including the three that will play the most minutes at that position:

• Point guard - Hughes, JTaylor, JBo
• Shooting guard - JBo, Jarmusz, RWilson
• Small forward - Krabbenhoft, Jarmusz, Evans
• Power forward - Landry, Nankivil, Leuer
• Center - Leuer, Berggren, Nankivil

Krabbs will lead the team in minutes, followed by Hughes, Landry, and Bohannon.
Now by person.  Not necessarily in order of playing time.

• Jared Berggren - I think he'll be a starter halfway through the year, so you had to expect he'd be near the top of the list.
• Jordan Taylor - We saw that Hughes may be susceptible to injury this year, so the fact that Taylor is more ready than Wilson is amplified by the fact that he might need to play significant minutes on short notice.  On the other hand, Hughes rarely leaves the game, which would cut into Taylor's minutes.
• Tim Jarmusz - He's got the experience advantage over Wilson and Evans, and both of those two still have a lot of work to do.  I know that I didn't list Landry as a center or Krabbs at PF, but Bo liked using that lineup this year.  Jarmusz will see minutes at the 3 if he does it again next year because Krabbs almost never comes out and will spend most of his time at the 3.  Jarmusz will probably see more minutes at the 2.
• Keaton Nankivil - He'll rest Landry at the 4 as well as see time at the 5.  He won't get as much playing time as he could.  Also, he really couldn't redshirt this year because there are FIVE players coming in next year (all right, originally there were four, but that's still a lot).
• Robert Wilson - He loses out on playing time because he's behind JBo, Krabbs, and Jarmusz.  Like I said above, Jarmusz gets the minutes because of his experience.  Wilson also has work left to do, and he should over take Jarmusz after a year or two.
• Ryan Evans - The wild card.  Could be the #2 guy behind Krabbs at the 3, could redshirt.

Other Reserves
You should notice that I just listed 11 player that could play important parts next year.  The past couple years Bo has not used more than 8 at a time.  Here's the rest.

• Ian Markolf - Should redshirt.  He's better than Gavinski, but there's enough depth and he has enough work left to do to justify him redshirting.
• Kevin Gullikson - I've always given him credit for doing what is asked of him - eat minutes, take a beating, and draw some fouls.  The thing is, Nankivil does everything Gullikson does better as well as being able to do other things as well.
• Mo Cain - Will continue to anchor the scout team.  He'd be a decent player on a midmajor.
• Brett Valentyn - If he's back (I'm still holding out hope that Pomlee or Nunn will come on as a preferred walkon) he'll get his minute during blowouts.  Will he be able to run the scout team and prepare the starters as well as Tanner did?
• JP Gavinski - I really think he'd be able to do more for himself on another team.  I really does make me feel cr4p because he's supposedly a reall good guy and I'm always calling for him to leave.

Record
I doubt the Badgers go 16-2 again.  Getting to 30 wins is a possibility, but I don't think it will happen either.  Don't mistake that as me saying that my expectations for next year's team are less than this year's team, it's just that this year's team exceeded my expectations that much.  I'm not going to give a record prediction until I see a schedule, but top three in the Big Ten and no worse than a Sweet Sixteen appearance are my expectations.

Post Season Awards
Landry gets first team all-Big Ten, Hughes gets second (could get first) and possible all-defensive team, Krabbenhoft gets second team all-B10 and defensive team, JBo gets third team all-B10 (possible second team), Berggren gets all-freshmen team, Leuer gets honorable mention.  Obviously those won't all happen, but any of them could.

I see where you are coming from but Leuer and Bergerren can BOTH play both the PF and Center spots as can Nankivil and frankly as can Ladnry who can also play the 3 spot. Then of course Krabs can play the 2, 3 & 4 spots. The front line on next years team is so versatile it is almost mind numbing. That said, Bo seems like he gets pretty lokced in on his starting rotations and doesn;t give them up easily (this year was the exception becasue of the goofiness with Flwoers to star the season). However that doesn't mean that Berggren might not play more minutes, so I see your scenario as plausible but unlikely in the "technical" sense of being the starter, though he may end up with more minutes.

I think with Wilson's length you could see him playing some mintes at teh Small Forward spot this year. Mostly at the two but he could see some at the 3.

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I agree with you for the most part.  I'd put money on Pop, JBo, Krabbs, Landry, and Leuer being the starting five to begin the year.  But depending on how far Leuer progresses during the offseason on his inside game and body I can see Berggren taking his spot when the Big Ten season comes around.

For every position you're supposed to have three guys that can play there.  The Badgers have that and more.  You can basically put all their names in a hat, dump it out, and put whatever names land face up out there on the floor and it would be a good lineup.  That's something Bo hasn't been able to do for a while.

They don't have to escalate much.  They beat the Badgers twice this year and return everybody, and that's good enough for me to say they're the favorite.  The rest of the top four (in ABC order) should be Michigan State, Ohio State, and Wisconsin.

And wasn't that the reason some Eagle fans were getting a little tired of Crean?  I guess that's not a problem for them anymore.

Sportsline, ESPN, and FOXSports all have their "Ridiculously early preseason poll" up for next year, and the Badgers are 23, 24, and 25 in them.  Each one has Purdue in the top 10 (one had them at #3), then Michigan State in the top 15, and Ohio State around 20.  Not that they actually mean much, but if they're that consistent with putting the Badgers fourth in the Big Ten...

They'll all be contistently suprised when the Badgers finish better then fourth in the Big Ten.  I liked Gary Parrish's reasoning for why he put the Badgers at 23: "At some point this season I promised myself I would never put a Bo Ryan team lower than 23 in a preseason poll.  It's that simple."  So the Badgers have gotten into perennial Top 23 teams.  Now Bo can work on getting into the Top 20 ones.

I realize that but i think everyone has this idea they are going to some how be devastatingly good next year and I don't see it. I think next years team will look ALOT like this years team without the Wofford loss. I owuldn't be suuprised at all if they lost 3 Big Ten games again next year.