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Me and a buddy are having an argument about which division is Better/ tougher...
Help me out and vote...
Which is a better division....
Feel free to comment...
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I think they are pretty even. Obviously the top tier teams in the AL East, Boston and NYY are better than the two top tier teams in the NL East, NYM and Phillies.
But as a division as a whole, they are pretty close. I give the edge to the NL East because i think that the races will be more competitive with the Braves having a better shot to win the division or wild card than the 3rd best team, Blue Jays.
The Rays could surprise big time this year if their starting pitchign really develops.
The Nationals, a lack of starting pitching, but a solid bullpen and a very good manager will play very well this year and i think 75-80 wins isn't out of the question for them.
The bottom two teams, Marlins and Orioles are bad, but the Marlins do have a much better younger squad than Baltimore. The marlins biggest problem is pitching , but they have a very good young offense led by the best SS in baseball, Hanley Ramirez. You add uggla, willingham, jacobs and so on to the mix and their offense blows Balt's away.
I give the edge to the NL East as a better division, but the best teams are in the AL East.
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better than the two top tier teams in the NL East, NYM and Phillies.You just had to slip that in there, didn't you? LOL. Anyway, the NL East. I agree with ETMB's comments other than the above incorrect statement. 
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I'll try to break this down one way and see if it works or if anyone has another way that works better...
SPs: Wang, Beckett, Dice-K, Kazmir, Holiday (if he counts) v.s. J. Santana, T. Hudson, Hamels, Smoltz, and a few others that can win about 13-16 games each (O. Perez, T. Glavine, Maine, Kendrick, and S. Olsen) --- edge to NL East
Bullpen: All of the teams throughout have questionable bullpens, so we'll look at the closers. M. Rivera, Papelbon, Percival, and whoever Toronto has out there v.s. Wagner, Lidge/Gordon, Gregg, C. Cordero, Soriano --- edge to NL East
1B --- Giambi, Youkilis, C. Pena, Huff, Overbay v.s. Howard, Delgado, Teixeira, M. Jacobs, and D. Young/N. Johnson --- edge to NL East
2B --- Cano, Pedroia, Iwamura, Roberts, and A. Hill v.s. Utley, L. Castillo, Uggla, Belliard, and K. Johnson --- about even because Belliard sucks and nullifies having 2 of the best.
SS --- do I need to go further than J. Reyes, Rollins, and Hanley. We can even throw in Y. Escobar.
3B --- A-Rod, Lowell, Rolen, warm body in Tampa, and Mora v.s. D. Wright, P. Feliz, Zimmerman, Cantu, Chipper --- very close...best player in AL East puts them over, but depth belongs to NL East
OF --- Manny, Matsui, B. Abreu, Ellsbury, Drew, Melky, B. Upton, Crawford, Damon, Gomes, Markakis, Rios, V. Wells, and others v.s. Beltran, Francoeur, Willingham, Alou, Burrell, Victorino, Hermida, Church, Milledge, W. Pena, Dukes/Kearns, Jenkins, and others --- close, but goes to AL East because of the young multi talented OFs.
C --- Posada, Veritek, Navarro, Zaughn, and Hernandez v.s. McCann, Schneider, LoDuca, Rableo, and C. Ruiz --- edge to AL East
DH --- who cares? They're defensive liabilities when they have to play a position anyhow.
Overall, I say NL East.
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not often but I disagree with ETMB, I voted for the AL East, I think the Phillies and Mets are equal to the Yanks and Sox, but the Bluejays will be a couple notches better than the Braves making the Al East a threeway race. I don't think Atlanta will be able to hang come mid August. IMO the most competetive division will be the NL West.
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Are you serious?????????
The NL as a whole is a joke......The Rays would be competing for the East title this year in the NL.....Cmon, there is a reason that people think Santana can approach 25 wins this year....Its not ONLY b/c of the lack of the DH, its b/c the 7 & 8 hitters in the NL accross the board are disgraceful automatic outs.........
What did the Rockies win 25 straight heading into the WS only to get thoroughly dominated by the AL's best in 4 games.........????
Red Sox FAR > >> > Mets
Yankees FAR> >> >> Phillies
Blue Jays about = Braves
Rays FAR> >> >> Marlins
Orioles about = Nationals......
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SPs: Wang, Beckett, Dice-K, Kazmir, Holiday (if he counts) v.s. J. Santana, T. Hudson, Hamels, Smoltz, and a few others that can win about 13-16 games each (O. Perez, T. Glavine, Maine, Kendrick, and S. Olsen) --- edge to NL East
Edge - AL EAST, not even close........Wang, Beckett, Dice K, Kazmir, Halladay, Burnett all 20+ winners in the NL...........O.Perez, Glavine, Kendrick, Scott Olsen???....If you could list them, we could list the likes of Guthrie, Mussina, Wakefield, Mcgowan (better than all mentioned in the NL), etc.etc.etc.etc.etc.
Bullpen: All of the teams throughout have questionable bullpens, so we'll look at the closers. M. Rivera, Papelbon, Percival, and whoever Toronto has out there v.s. Wagner, Lidge/Gordon, Gregg, C. Cordero, Soriano --- edge to NL East
Edge - AL EAST, not even close.......Im not sure if youre actually serious about this or not.......Jeremy Accardo, the guy you didnt mention may be better than every closer you mentioned in the NL East.........Rivera/Papelbon/Sherrill/Percival/A
ccardo (Ryan)....Youre kidding right? Wagner? Lidge Gordon (LOL), Gregg?.....I like Soriano and Cordero
1B --- Giambi, Youkilis, C. Pena, Huff, Overbay v.s. Howard, Delgado, Teixeira, M. Jacobs, and D. Young/N. Johnson --- edge to NL East
Agreed, ONLY because of Tex and Howard, noone else noteworthy
2B --- Cano, Pedroia, Iwamura, Roberts, and A. Hill v.s. Utley, L. Castillo, Uggla, Belliard, and K. Johnson --- about even because Belliard sucks and nullifies having 2 of the best.
Ill agree on this......Although as far as balance, the AL East is very solid accross the board, the NL is Utley and Uggla and a rising star in Johnson, Castillo and Belliard not worthy of conversation
SS - Agreed 100%, obviously
3B --- A-Rod, Lowell, Rolen, warm body in Tampa, and Mora v.s. D. Wright, P. Feliz, Zimmerman, Cantu, Chipper --- very close...best player in AL East puts them over, but depth belongs to NL East
Wright, Zimmerman, Chipper make this close.....The other 2 guys could be released tomorrow and noone would notice
OF --- Manny, Matsui, B. Abreu, Ellsbury, Drew, Melky, B. Upton, Crawford, Damon, Gomes, Markakis, Rios, V. Wells, and others v.s. Beltran, Francoeur, Willingham, Alou, Burrell, Victorino, Hermida, Church, Milledge, W. Pena, Dukes/Kearns, Jenkins, and others --- close, but goes to AL East because of the young multi talented OFs.
NOT EVEN CLOSE..............The stars in the NL OF.....Beltran, Francoeur....THATS IT!......Willingham leads the second tier but doesnt produce on the second tier like an Abreau, Matsui.....The stars in the AL East OF.....Manny, Upton, Crawford, Rios, Markakis, Wells........Not Even close
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Dirt,
This is a sarcastic post, right? This post is screwed up on so many levels.
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My post was written before your 2nd post, but it's almost as relavent to the 2nd one. If you really want me to, I will find every single flaw in both of those posts. Tell me you're joking with these posts.
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Nope, Serious as a doorknob (whatever the hell that means)
I want you to start by telling me a # 8 hitter in the NL worthy of being in an AL lineup...Lets start there!.
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Fine. Matt Diaz. He'll bat 7th or 8th for the Braves this year, and it's a rare AL line-up that he wouldn't crack. I didn't even have to think. In the next couple minutes, I'll be countering your first 2 posts point by point. Enjoy.
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Fair enough, I praised your Braves in my post...........eh, Diaz? Ok, I would say he could crack about 50% of AL lineups......BUT you did have to pick a guy from the best or 2nd best lineup in the NL.........
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I'm with dirt.
Both the Yankees and the Red Sox would destroy all 5 teams in the NL East in a 5 game series.
So you start to take a look at the second tier in the AL East...I would put the Blue Jays about on a par with the Mets and Phillies. Definitely superior to the other 3 teams in the division.
The Rays are going to win 85+ games this year, and they would be a lock for second place in the NL East, if not able to make a run at the division title.
The Orioles stink, but the top 4 in the division are way stronger than what the NL East has to offer.
We'll keep an eye on the Interleague records this year, but I like the AL East a LOT better in terms of their overall quality.
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OHHHH
The Red Sox are NOT better than the Mets???????
The Yankees are NOT better than the Phillies?????
What do you think the Yankee would have done to the Colorado Rockies in the playoffs last year??? Get swept???? Or do something a little like what the Red Sox did????
Cmon, before you answer the next one, please get serious.....If youre gonna tell me the World Champs are NOT better than a team that missed the playoffs, than Im worried how you will respond to my next post
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