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Since:Sep 21, 2007
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I would be very afraid to pick a DT in the top 10.As a saints fan i stil cant get over johnthan sullivan No. 6.but other DTs picked high havent faired much better.ie dywane robertson,steve etman,dan wilkerson,darrel russell,jimmy kennedy,ryan simms,gerald warren.for some reason DT's picked in the top 10 are fairing badly in the nfl.
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Since:Jan 20, 2008
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I don't think that there have been a load of busts, but rather that DT is a position which isn't really an impact position on defense (OLB in the 3-4, DE in 4-3, CB) and therefore it is harder to put up the big stats.
Someone like Okoye in Houston has been a terrific player in his first two years and IMO is just as valuable to the team as other players. But the fact remains that the only way to really put up good stats at DT is to either play alongside other great D-lineman or on a crappy run defence. With other good D-lineman you won't be consistently double-teamed and therefore can get sacks, while on crappy run defence you will be called upon to make more tackles and therefore have more tackles and a greater chance at forcing fumbles. This situation is maximised in the 3-4 which is the reason why players like Sedrick Ellis from USC have fallen (his draft workouts were still better than Dorsey's).
Ultimately, I think that if you are a GM picking in the top 5 of the draft you probably have more pressing needs than DT. Thats why I can't see the Dolphins, Rams or Falcons taking Dorsey. Additionally, teams that have had great DTs haven't necessarily had great defences or been especially successful - Jacksonville with Stroud and Henderson.
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Since:Jan 8, 2008
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I couldn't agree more. I think drafting a DT in the top 10 is a waste of a golden opportunity. This is coming from a Browns fan that watched Gerard Warren excel only at watching opposing running backs blow by him for years. If you're drafting in the top 10, you likely have much bigger needs, and there are much safer positions to draft. Wait until the 2nd round to find your DT.
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Since:Mar 16, 2008
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I couldn't disagree more. I think that DT is one of the more important positions on defense.
If you run a 3-4, you need a big body to tie up blockers, allowing your MLB's to make tons of plays. If you don't have a solid DT than your MLB's will be tied up all day long and the other team will run wild.
Conversely, in the 4-3, you need DT's who can get up the field and disrupt the play in the backfield. This draws blockers away from your ends allowing them a clear path to the QB.
I think the reason that you see so many DT's taken high in the draft is that it is such a need position. So I think that at times teams reach for a guy because there aren't that many dominant DT's out there and the need for one is so great.
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Since:Jun 28, 2007
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I understand that some DT's picked in the top 5 are busts. But DT has become an impact position in the NFL. Just check out the salaries. The reason why the Ravens D was so good when they won the Super Bowl was because of the huge DT's cleared the way for Ray Lewis to make plays. I know some people are cautious when it comes to picking DT's in the top 5, but Dorsey was supposed to be the top pick last year. He came back to school to get healthy and still performed at an all-american level. What more can you ask. He is a playmaker who will make strides his rookie season and make an impact every year after that. You just can't pass up on his physicallity when he is healthy and involved. A DT with this amount of talent and mean streak is not available every year, that's why picking Dorsey in the top 5 is the right decision.
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Since:Feb 27, 2008
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There have been a ton of DL busts in the first round, however, teams still have to fill their needs. And if Glenn Dorsey is available, he'll be taken.
But, there have been busts at ALL positions taken in the top 10, so every pick is a gamble. Missing on a first round pick hurts a franchise for years. Between the salary hit and being forced to use an underperforming player, teams have to be VERY careful.
Choose wisely, GMs!
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Since:Mar 25, 2008
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There's a probability of any player you take in the top 10 being a bust, regardless of position. And with the amount of money these guys are guaranteed nowadays it's a huge deal if you swing and miss with a top 10 selection.
Like someone mentioned, DT isn't exactly a position where numbers get racked up a lot of the time. A big run stuffer can do a great job and not have a lot of statistics to back his play up. That doesn't mean he isn't valuable.
If a team in the top 10 has DT as one of their biggest needs, and have one of those guys rated higher than the other players on the board when they're on the clock then they should take him. He might be a bust, but drafting is a very inexact science. McFadden or Gholston could just as easily be a bust as well.
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Reputation:97
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Since:Dec 11, 2006
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Green Bay can tell you about first rounds busts. Tony Mandarich second pick overall sucked Jamal to small Reynolds, Rich Campbell, Ahmad Carroll, Terrell Buckley these are just a few I can think of.
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Since:Sep 12, 2006
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As a Rams fan, I hesitate to take another DT, now that we finally have three good DTs in Carriker, Ryan, and Glover.
After Pickett, Kennedy, and Lewis, I'm thinking we should take Chris Long, or if Miami picks him, Vernon Gholston.
(Why not Jake Long? I think he should be a top 10, not a Top 3 pick. And the O-Line class in this draft is deeper than the D-Line, so any O-linemen in the 2nd will be better than the D-Linemen. I think we can snag Jeff Otah or Sam Baker.)
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Since:Aug 25, 2006
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Have you ever heard of Richard Semoore of the Pats...He is not too bad and Hey they have the chance to pick another one in the top 7..
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