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Stop whining about the Raleigh-Charlotte path


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Stop whining about the Raleigh-Charlotte path
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Since:Mar 12, 2007

March 17, 2008 12:04 pm
So UNC isn't leaving the state of North Carolina -- so what?  The Tar Heels EARNED their seed.  If your team is the #1 overall seed, they will play in the bracket that is best for them and their fans, as they should.

The NCAA East region was going to be in Raleigh and Charlotte from the beginning of the season regardless of who played there -- that was determined long ago.  North Carolina is a state that loves basketball and has a great fan base, so a regional will be played there every few years on a rotating basis for that reason alone.  The fact that UNC earned the right to play in that bracket this year is a testament to them: #1 in the polls, #1 overall seed, #1 in the #1 RPI conference, 2 conference championships, etc. etc. etc.  Why should they be moved elsewhere?  Do you punish a team for being the best by making them travel?  No.  The tournament happens to go through Raleigh-Charlotte this year, and UNC happens to have the best team in the same year.

In 2005, UNC played Michigan State and Illinois in the Final Four in Big Ten country -- basically 2 road games.  They won.  You still have to play the games and win.

If the seeds play out, Tennessee will have just as short a trip to Charlotte as UNC.  It's all about selling tickets, not favoritism.

Stop whining about the Raleigh-Charlotte path
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Since:Aug 18, 2006

March 17, 2008 3:58 pm
good points and I agree with you.  I actually wanted Tennessee in the East for that very reason (short drive) even if it meant opp. UNC but I did not want to have to potentially face Butler in the 2nd round

Stop whining about the Raleigh-Charlotte path
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Since:Feb 5, 2007

March 18, 2008 2:10 pm

Personally, I think it kinda sucks that any team gets to play essentially 4 home games to get the the Final 4, but I have to agree that they earned it by virtue of being the the top overall seed and lucked out with the locations of the East Region games.  I still can't help but think that the idea is to play the games on relatively neutral courts and a situation like this is far from neutral.  I can't complain about UNC though because every year UCLA gets to play its conference tourney literally in their own back yard and almost never have to leave the state of California during the NCAA tourney until the Final 4 (if they are a 1 or 2 seed)...can you tell I'm a bitter non-UCLA Pac-10 fan?  At least someone else has been deemed eligible for the "UCLA Tourney Travel Package"...4 games, 2 weeks all expenses paid trip down the block...complete with breakfast bed...your own bed.


Stop whining about the Raleigh-Charlotte path
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Since:Apr 1, 2007

March 18, 2008 6:55 pm

You still have to win all the games but playing that many games at home is a big advantage. There should a procedure where you switch sites and can't play the first 4 rounds in the same state.


Stop whining about the Raleigh-Charlotte path
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Since:Feb 28, 2008

March 25, 2008 4:28 am

Personally, I think it's pretty much ridiculous.

Two games, reasonable.  Four games, unreasonable.


Stop whining about the Raleigh-Charlotte path
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Since:Aug 3, 2007

March 26, 2008 1:26 pm
Two games, reasonable.  Four games, unreasonableThis seems like an unbiased view...seeing as how your team will be affected by the four, rather than the two.

Stop whining about the Raleigh-Charlotte path
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Level:Amateur
Since:Mar 26, 2008

March 26, 2008 6:08 pm
Please tell me how Washington State, for example, could have earned a home game, when the closest regional is about 1200 miles away. 

This is supposed to be a neutral court tournament.  There is a huge difference between simply limiting travel time and giving a team four home games.

Stop whining about the Raleigh-Charlotte path
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Level:Amateur
Since:Mar 26, 2008

March 26, 2008 6:11 pm
Also, please tell me what 10th-seed South Alabama, for example, did to earn a home game in the first round.  How about 3-seed Syracuse in 2003?  Did they earn four home games?

Stop whining about the Raleigh-Charlotte path
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Level:Amateur
Since:Sep 25, 2006

March 26, 2008 6:16 pm

Let us not forget in 2005 when Illinois traveled 125.7 miles from Champaigne to Indianapolis for the first weekend. Next, they traveled 136 miles to Chigago for the second weekend. Last, they traveled a whopping 178.3 miles to St. Louis for the final four. Over the course of the entire tournament, Illinois never had more than a 3 hour car ride from their campus. Let me also remind you they lost the national championship. Location isn't everything, and while it can be an advantage, the precedent has been set for the number one overall seed to not have to travel all that far. While yes, Raliegh is only a half hour drive from Chapel Hill, Charlotte is 5 miles from the SC border on the opposite end of the state from Chapel HIll, 141.6 miles away. It's not like they're playing in Raleigh and then playing the regional final in Durham. In case you were at all interested, San Antonio is 1370.7 miles from Chapel Hill. Sorry guys, I was bored.

P.S. all distances calculated via google maps.


Stop whining about the Raleigh-Charlotte path
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Since:Apr 10, 2007

March 26, 2008 6:42 pm

whoever started this thread - you're stupid!

Yes, North Carolina deserved a 1 seed and the top #1 seed

The selection committee also made a massive mistake. Technically speaking, North Carolina is also in the SOUTH first off (and so is it northern neighbor, Virginia), but seeing as the South regional is in Houston it is understandable that Carolina was put in the East region. The selection committee also could've had the Heels play rounds 1 and 2 somewhere else (up near Wash DC maybe) seeing as how there are 7 other sites for the 1st 2 rounds, but they didn't - big time screw up. And being the top #1 seed is still not a valid reason to set it up so that they have 4 games in their state (and all of the big cities in north carolina are in the eastern half of the state). I don't care how much they might've deserved it  (UNC)- this year the teams at the top are so close and every team should have somewhat of a tests on their path from how the brackets are initially set up. What the selection committee did was actually very unfair to the other 1 seeds and to a certain extent, the 2 seeds.

See, the selection committee could've prevented the Heels from playing their 1