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If that doesn't prove that a middle weigh can take a heavy weight punch we have nothing to say to each other. a middleweight cannot take tyson's bombs... no way... the only people that could beat tyson in his prime would be taller heavyweight boxers with a huge reach advantage and an awesome jab and/or amazing counterpunchers, lamotta who constantly stayed within the punching range of his opponents would stand no chance.... zero chance... less chance than you stating something coherent about football or boxing...
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BYU got a major bump by beating a horrible Pitt. team and BSU got no bump by beating three ranked teams. Bring in Louisville is a misnomer and you know it. I want to know what year Louisville went undefeated? It wasn't 2004, or ever, so please enlighten me when it happened and I will admit I was wrong. oh comon tim, you were stating how great it is to beat a team with a clean record, so i brought up louisville... yes boise st didn't get much of a bump for beating hawaii and oregon, oh well tough luck... but overall the schedule was still weaker (relatively speaking) and the team didn't deserve an ncg invite. no way around that one tim...
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I would like to know when I said BSU should have had a title. I instead asked what was more impressive. You sound like a bad politician when you talk like that.
winning the national title is the most impressive thing a 1a team can accomplish, and therefore, what byu did was more impressive...
however, if you want to look at how much more a team has accomplished from one year to the next, i would say (using your pathetic logic) that what hawaii did in 1999 is much more impressive than what boise st did in 2006. in 1998 hawaii went 0-12 and finished the season ranked 112th out of 113 teams. in 1999 hawaii had terrible pre-season power ranking but finished the year 9-4, winning a bowl game and ranked 50th... so using your messed up, convoluted logic, hawaii accomplished plenty more than boise st because they started all the way at the bottom and ended up being better than average... makes no sense, does it tim? well that is how i feel about everything you post...
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So are you saying that Holyfield was "bigger" than Tyson?
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What was his prime? Was it when he fought no ones and won or was when he fought winners and lost?
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My two votes for today are...
- Superman 2
- Hulk 2
- Wolverine 1, Iron man 1
- Capt America 1, Wonder Woman 1
- Spidey 2
- Thor 2
- Mr Incredible 2
- Batman 2
That takes the matchups too...
1 seed- Superman -30 vs. 16 seed- Robin -10
8 Seed- Cpt Marvel -10 vs. 9 seed- The Incredible Hulk -30
5 seed- Wolverine -20 vs. 12 seed- Iron Man -20
4 seed- Captain America - 22 vs. 13 seed- Wonder Woman -18
2 seed- Spider Man -30 vs. 15 seed- DareDevil -10
7 seed- Thor -28 vs. 10 seed- Plastic Man -12
6 seed- Mr. Incredible -30 vs. 11 seed- Green Lantern -10
3 seed- Batman -28 vs. 14 seed- Capt Caveman -12
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No what what Hawaii did in '99 is very impressive and I would almost put it on par with what BSU, or Utah did, but it lacks some top 25 wins.
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" If that doesn't prove that a middle weigh can take a heavy weight punch we have nothing to say to each other. a middleweight cannot take tyson's bombs... no way... the only people that could beat tyson in his prime would be taller heavyweight boxers with a huge reach advantage and an awesome jab and/or amazing counterpunchers, lamotta who constantly stayed within the punching range of his opponents would stand no chance.... zero chance... less chance than you stating something coherent about football or boxing..."
Please show me how James Toney could not take a heavy weight punch.
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"a middleweight cannot take tyson's bombs... no way... the only people that could beat tyson in his prime would be taller heavyweight boxers with a huge reach advantage and an awesome jab and/or amazing counterpunchers, lamotta who constantly stayed within the punching range of his opponents would stand no chance.... zero chance... less chance than you stating something coherent about football or boxing..."
LaMotta was was a great counter puncher who could roll a punch like no one else. He could, also, use that to bully a guy in a manner that Holyfield wishes he could. LaMotta was like watching Marciano fight just smaller, but not by much. It's the old stick and roll style.
Tyson in his "prime" never fought a guy worth a damn, so call it what you will. He was still a joke.
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So are you saying that Holyfield was "bigger" than Tyson?i am saying that holyfield is much bigger than lamotta and has a boxing style which is much more difficult for tyson to deal with...
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What was his prime? Was it when he fought no ones and won or was when he fought winners and lost?i see, so all 50 tyson wins (44 by ko) came against nothing but losers... lol... wow tim wow... and the scary part is, you own a pistol...
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No what what Hawaii did in '99 is very impressive and I would almost put it on par with what BSU, or Utah did, but it lacks some top 25 wins.well i wouldn't put the 1999 hawaii year anywhere near the 2004 utah year, 2006 bsu year or 1984 byu year... it was a great recovery year for the bows but it can't be compared with getting a top 10 ranking...
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Holyfield was much smaller than Tyson, but had the bully style that won. Most of Tyson's win came against journeymen, not high level fighters. Yes LaMotta was smaller when he fought, but then Marciano beat 240lb guys at 190. James Toney beat harder hitting guys while he was a fatty, so you can say what you will but a chin is a chin.
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Please show me how James Toney could not take a heavy weight punch. stop trying to compare toney (a boxer with excellent defence) to lamotta who would try to slug it out all the time... plus toney weighed over 230 lbs when he fought rahman... maybe due to steroids...
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Holyfield was much smaller than Tyson, but had the bully style that won. no he wasn't, for the fight tyson and holyfield were about the same size, and holyfield used the jab and counterpunching to keep tyson off balance... plus there was the headbutting thing...
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LaMotta was was a great counter puncher who could roll a punch like no one else.
lmao.... too funny... that is why is was called the "bronx bull" .... because he rolled with the punches like no one else... lmao...
tim, do me a favour, make a thread just for the 2 of us, call it "tim-meh vs nonbcsfan" so we can argue boxing, football and whatever else you want... that way i won't have to trip all over the superhero playoffs to find your insane posts...
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