Oregon State in trouble?

Nice thread about your #70 in the nation recruiting.  Also, I like how you guys still think your good, even though you are losing your starters...good starters:

C, RB, RT, FB, and like 7 other starters on Defense.  Prediction for 2008: (4-8)

Maryland = #28 recruiting according to Rivals.  Also, they are losing a lot but we have good replacements.  Maryland prediction: (8-4) or (9-3)

OSU, at least UMD didn't steal the abbreviation for someone's team.  OSU = Ohio State, not Oregon State. 

Is this guy Maryland or University Minnesota, Delueth?

Hmmm, when I just checked we were #54, not #70, using rivals.com.  Maybe we went up that many spots in the last couple of hours?

Obviously he hasn't heard about Oregon State changing to OS yet. 

You guys in Maryland think its cool to have better prospects, for example when you were ranked #22 in the AP preseason a couple years ago, and finished 5-6.  You have had one good year in the last 4, and it is not because of lack of talent.  We have been recruiting the same way for many years now, and instead of your pathetic bowl record we have done much better.  We know that 4 and 5 stars do not equal wins. 

Nice post about someone like you in Minn or Maryland not yet growing a brain.  Thank you, try again.

Oregon State was established in 1868, Ohio State was established in 1870.  So we were here first.  You people and your silly comments crack me up.

It sounds like someone posted a thread to which you took offense.  It would be helpful if you let us know to which thread you are referring so we could read this thread

Oregon State University fans have come to realize that stars and recruiting class don't really matter as much as coaching.  Mike Riley, Dennis Erickson, and Mike Riley again have taken walk-ons, 1 star, & 2 star players and built a great program.  OSU (Now OS) has posted our first 11 win season, or first 10 win season, gone to 7 bowl games in 9 years and won 5 of them. 

Those good starters that we are losing is what Mike Riley molded them into being.  He doesn't just stop with one class but continues onto the next.  We have good starters in the wings waiting to replace those seniors which are leaving. 

I personally would like to thank coach Mike Riley for being at OS and hope he remains until he retires. 

Tore,

I was going to use the same argument that Oregon State Univerisity was established before Ohio State University, but technically we went by a few other names before we became Oregon State University in 1927. 

Either way it doesn't matter because Vtterrapin has egg on his face either way he tries to argue the OSU or UMD acroynyms.  As OSUbeavsrec pointed out the University of Minnesota, Deuluth was using the UMD acroynym before the University of Maryland.  The University of Maryland is just like Oregon State University in that they went by other college names before settling on their current name but the college was established before Minnesota's university.  So if he argues that UMD was not "stolen" from Minnesota, then he must concede that OSU was not "stolen" by Oregon. 

I know,I just thought it was a rediculous comment.  I wonder if he went after Oklahoma State fans too.

Who won the bowl game this year? Who had the better record? Who was ranked in the top 25 at the end of the year? You just sound like you can't get over losing to the Beavs. OSU has been winning consistently the past 7 or 8 years with this type of recruiting. It is called winning by exceptional coaching. We ended up # 3 in the nation in 2000 with this type of recruiting. Not too bad.

I doubt you will be much above .500 next year. Get over your east coast bias. Good coaching  and a good system will generally beat over hyped preps  every time. Just because you don't know anything about a program, it does not give the right to make stupid comments. It just shows your IGNORANCE.

OSU = Oregon State

Awww.  The thing is. 

Maryland (6-7) vs Oregon State (9-4)

hmm.  Oh yeah, you all have bragging rights.  WOW!  You beat a (6-7) team that is in the ACC.  Yes I made a mistake on recruiting.  Now yours is like #27.  Ours is #36.  Around there.  I made very good points here.  All you all had was a defense and a running game.  You are losing both categories.  If none of your recruits step up, then you all will be in big trouble this upcoming season.  Yeah, I said some pretty stupid crap.  I admit.  This will be a good statement.  Maryland is changing their offensive style, getting the coach back from 2001-2004 as their offensive coordinator.  There will be changes. 

Considering just about every brain fart you put up there was found to be incorrect I don't know how you can come back here and say anything at all.

So, let's see.  Riley was instrumental in recruiting many Beavs who have made some of the best defenses in the nation over the last 8 years (Erikson probably slacked off in this category slightly).  We have always had strong running, look at Steven Jackson, Simonton and Bernard (Erickson might have gotten one of those guys actually, not looking it up right now).  We had two brand new quaterbacks going back and forth over who would start many games of the year, and we had a few new recievers in the line up to boot, so we have a young class there to build on.  

Our 9-4 record could have easily been your record this year, and you had some close enough games that your record could have easily have been 9-4 (including the loss to us). 

However, our recruiting has been consistent.  You are not flashy.  But, we play.  We play hard, and we usually end out on top.  Look at the amount of bowl wins we have had in the last 8 years (including a BCS bowl that we won, unlike you guys losing yours).

I don't expect to have Oregon State drop off the map this year, but I've always been leary of how our recruiting looks, and then they almost always out perform what was expected of them.

Take it easy there OSUbeavrec.  Maryland has won bowls since 2001.  We have out scored opponents (109-38 in 4 bowl games) since 2002.  We have gone to 5 bowl games in the past 7 years.  And Maryland's defense, look at what UMD's ranked in DT and LB and then come talk to me.  Maryland has just as much talent as you all do and we proved that in the bowl games.  We, #52 Maryland (6-7) played a #25 Oregon State team (9-4).  Yet Maryland gets no credit for what they've done.  So no one still has answered to my points here.  I admit you make good points, but come on and look at mine!  And it looks like you like to use the phrase "brain farts" a lot.  I'll bold my points for you. 

Maryland had a better and much harder schedule than Oregon State

Maryland played 6 Teams in the top 30

Oregon State played 4 Teams in the top 30

Maryland: Won 1 game out of those

Oregon: Won 1 game out of those

#6 WV ( L 14-31)

#11 BC ( W 42-35)

#21 Clemson ( L Crush)

#25 Oregon State ( L 21-14) CLOSE

#26 Virginia  ( L 17-18) CLOSE and REFS WERE BAD

#29 Wake Forest ( L OT 34-28) ? CLOSE

NO MORE BRAIN FARTS OUT OF YOU EITHER!

I was not saying that we had a harder schedule, as I have in the past on another thread said that you guys played a lot of quality teams and held in there with them.  I think I even hinted at that on this thread by saying something to the effect of you guys could have had a 9-4 season easy. 

However, you came to the Oregon State page and made claims against Oregon State.  If you didn't like claims we made about your team, then leave and post on your team's site.  Otherwise, take the criticism.  You comments were argumentative, and inaccurate, and now you want to try and give facts.  Interesting. 

So, Maryland in the bowls:

2001 - loss to Florida, BCS game (game wasn't close score wise).

2002 - Peach Bowl win over Tenn.

2003 - Gator Bowl win over Virginia

2004 - No bid losing season (preseason ranking of 22 in the nation)

2005 - No bid losing season

2006 - Champs Sports Bowl win over Purdue

2007 - Emerald Bowl loss to Oregon State

So since 2001 you were 2-3 over 7 years.  Compare that to Oregon State 5-1 over the same period.  Hmmm, 1 more bowl bid and 3 more wins, 2 less losses. 

Maryland has had good teams but not as favorable results post season wise.  Compared to what our recruiting produces I would rather have our results.  So if you are criticizing our recruiting for having these kind of results, then i think you have to look at what your "better recruiting"  (must be since you are criticizing ours) and reevaluate it. 

Also, Cal did have a horrible year, after they lost as #2 in the nation to Oregon State several weeks into the season.  Oregon was also a former #2 that we beat.  Our strength of schedule wasn't too tough this year, but next year it looks much tougher.  Maryland's SoS allowed them to get the bid to the Emerald Bowl, OS record got them it (even though we should have gotten the Sun Bowl), but not as much our SoS.