SEC has not been impressive

Georgia fan here (with too much time on my hands)

I agree the big 12 looked pretty stout in the bowl season.  And it's tough to argue with OU, Kansas, and Mizz all in top 10.  Big 12 didn't get enough props this year.

I also agree with you that the Tebow hype is nauseating.  CBS and ESPN have a freaking man crush on Tebow.  It's disgusting.  I was pretty happy to see em take it on the chin.  About made me throw up when Lee Corso predicted that Florida would blow Michigan away and would start next year ranked #1 pre-season.  Which will still probably happen given the orange and blue colored glasses the media wears.

But, I don't quite agree about the SEC looking weak in the bowls.  Even if LSU loses, the SEC still goes 6-3 in the bowls.  That's pretty good.  If you take a good hard (and objective) look at the specific matchups, I think that says alot more than the actual record. 

Let's look shall we.  I'll do the SEC since I know it.  You do the Big 12.

Miss. State...Nobody, seriously, nobody was predicitng they'd win their game.  Could call it a minor upset.  In the CBS polls, UCF is 25.  MS 40. 

Alabama...(the 9th best team in the SEC) beats Colorado (the 9th best team in Big12).  Bama and Colorado were ranked 66 and 67 by cbssports.  Evenly matched.  You'd expect a close game.

Kentucky (7th in SEC) beats FSU (6th in ACC) - granted, FSU was missing nearly a third of their team.  Shoulda been worse.  This one probably proves your point.  But Kentucky doesn't exactly have much of a bowl history in the last 20 years.  Just to be here was a big deal for them.

Arkansas (6th in SEC) gets blown out by Mizz (2nd or 3rd in Big 12 - you decide).  I'm pretty sure you'd have a similar score if UGA lined up and played Texas A&M.  How can this be a suprise?  How can this indicate the SEC is down?  Come on.  Be fair here.  It's like saying the SEC is down because USC blew out Arkansas a few years ago.

Auburn (5th in SEC) upsets higher ranked Clemson (3rd in ACC).

Tennessee (4th in SEC) beats an evenly matched Wisconsin (2nd or 3rd best in Big10)

Florida - (3rd in SEC arguably) gets spanked by Michigan (probably 2nd best in Big 10).  OK, this one was ugly.  And I loved it.  Carr really got em up for his last game.  This one proves your point.

UGA - 2nd best (I'm biased but I'd say THE best) in SEC.  OK, yeah they were playing Hawaii, but they beat em so bad, it was embarassing.  Corso, Mark Mays, and others predicted Hawaii would win.  Given what Boise did to your Big 12 sooners last year, I think this was a big statement by the Dawgs. 

Lsu - we'll see, won't we.

Bottom line:  the SEC with 1 exception, won the games it should have, won the evenly matched games, won a few it shouldn't have, and lost the one it was really overmatched in.  Hard to say that's a disappointing showing.

Give me the lowdown on Big 12. 

Allow me to make my point after we review who we are talking about here:

Big 12 Conference

<table cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" width="100%" border="0"> <tbody> <tr class="bg1" align="left"> <td> Southeastern Conference</td> </tr> <tr class="bg4" align="left"> <td> East Division</td> </tr> <tr class="bg2" valign="middle" align="right" height="17"> <td align="left"> Florida</td> </tr> <tr class="bg2" valign="middle" align="right" height="17"> <td align="left"> Georgia</td> </tr> <tr class="bg2" valign="middle" align="right" height="17"> <td align="left"> Kentucky</td> </tr> <tr class="bg2" valign="middle" align="right" height="17"> <td align="left"> South Carolina</td> </tr> <tr class="bg2" valign="middle" align="right" height="17"> <td align="left"> Tennessee</td> </tr> <tr class="bg2" valign="middle" align="right" height="17"> <td align="left"> Vanderbilt</td> </tr> <tr class="bg4" align="left"> <td> West Division</td> </tr> <tr class="bg2" valign="middle" align="right" height="17"> <td align="left"> Alabama</td> </tr> <tr class="bg2" valign="middle" align="right" height="17"> <td align="left"> Arkansas</td> </tr> <tr class="bg2" valign="middle" align="right" height="17"> <td align="left"> Auburn</td> </tr> <tr class="bg2" valign="middle" align="right" height="17"> <td align="left"> LSU</td> </tr> <tr class="bg2" valign="middle" align="right" height="17"> <td align="left"> Mississippi</td> </tr> <tr class="bg2" valign="middle" align="right" height="17"> <td align="left"> Mississippi State</td> </tr> </tbody> </table>

Big 12 worst teams vs SEC worst teams: Ole Miss, S Carolina and Vandy vs. Baylor, Iowa St. and Kansas St....pretty clear that the 3 SEC downers would take the Big 12 cellar dwellers.

Last year, Florida finished #1 overall and LSU finished #2, two SEC schools.

If LSU wins NC monday, LSU finishes #1 and Georgia finishes #2, two SEC schools

Big 12 best Oklahoma, Missouri, Kansas vs. LSU, Georgia ,and Florida, any matchup here and I take the SEC..Florida beats MIch nine out of ten, emotion win and letdown for TEbow

Your points are well made. I'm from the Big XII and as good of year as MU, OU and KU had, I'd have to agree that I wouldn't flat out pick any of them over UGA or LSU. I would like to think that the Big XII was the 2nd best conference this year over the PAC 10. USC ended the season strong and Oregon could've won the NC if they hadn't lost their QB but I'd say top to bottom it would be SEC, Big XII, Pac 10, Big 10...

RCJH

Some very good points.   You guys have made some very good points.  Some great things to think about.  Good luck to both LSU and Ohio State tonight.  +

..Florida beats MIch nine out of ten, emotion win and letdown for TEbow....

.........uh from the looks of it, mich would beat florida 9 of ten times!!!!

So what really happened. Michigan knew our weaknesses and exposed them. Congratulations to Michigan. But quit blaming tebow who accounted for 4 TD's!

Tebow=overrated

Tebow is not even the best player on his own team. He throws 5 yard passes and Harvin makes 8 guys miss and scores an 80 yard TD.  Then the media says what a play by Tebow. Tebow had 4 touchdowns, but accounted for only 200 yards. Henne dominated him head to head. Tebow didn't make plays when they needed it. The loss is on his hands. Tebow is a glory hog, who is all about padding his stats. Ya, he rushed for 22 TDs and how many of them were longer than 5 yards? People say Florida has no running game, but the truth is Tebow is a ball hog and doesn't want anyone to steal his personal glory. James is a quality back and would average over 100 yards per game on most SEC schools.

 If this game is sloppy  and close say 17 to 13 LSU does Georgia or USC have a chance at a possible shared national Title? I personally believe Georgia is the best team in football.

The SEC is 6 and 2, but really doesn't have a quality win over another major conference.

Georgia beat Hawaii (The WAC has been pathetic in bowl games this year)

Kentucky barely beat FSU (who had 36 players missing).

UT barely beat Wisc (Wisc dominated them in the 2nd half)

AU beat a pretty good Clemson team in OT( Probably the best win of the bunch)

Alabama beat the #9 big 12 team

MSU beat CFU

In the two match ups where the SEC played a good team they got beat: Arkansas and Florida. If OSU beats LSU the Big 10 who had a terrible year would have beat 2 of the best 3 SEC teams.