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December 17, 2007 7:22 pm
The Kings news is getting kinda boring, let's talk about other stuff. How about a player's productivity, or where Fransisco Garcia will be in three years. Just bring up a topic and lets discuss it!


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December 17, 2007 7:27 pm
Beno Udrih is doing well! I kinda don't think we need Mike Bibby as much anymore, I mean were are at the same winning percentage without him!


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December 18, 2007 12:26 am
lets trade some veterans to teams looking to get better for expiring contracts young talent and draft picks. i think the Bulls and Heat definetly need help. cleveland likes bibby Lakers like artest lets see some trades here cuz once this team will be healthy in about a month or so (thats if noone else gets injured) then the young guys will not see any minutes. i say bring bibby back for about 10 games when he gets fully healthy we can get some good talent in return for him. if we trade him right now all we'll get is garbage because he is injured right now. why isn't justin williams playing?

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December 18, 2007 8:11 pm
Yeah, dude, let's trade Ron Artest for Kwame Brown and Jarvis Crittendon. It's definately not equal value, beacuse of the identity Artest is fixing, but we release some cash and get a point guard I'm not about. The best part about Artest is if the Lakers don't want him, they can release him. If they wanna keep him, they can probally get him for cheap.


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Since:Dec 19, 2007

December 19, 2007 6:28 pm

where did all the Kings fan go? don’t see much of us now, mostly Warriors fan. well that doesn’t surprise me as much as i would think since <st1:place w:st="on"> <st1:city w:st="on"> sacramento</st1:city> </st1:place> is mostly fill with bay area peoples. but what about all the kings fan before they move here. where did they all go? did they just abandon us?  well hopefully i see them again when we’re in the playoff.


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December 20, 2007 3:02 am
well at least we know who the real Kings fans are.

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December 20, 2007 3:51 pm

I still don't understand wanting to trade Ron Artest, we should keep him. Pay him what he deserves, he is a proven winner. The Kings are 1-7 w/out him, and 10-7 with him this year. If he wasn't suspended the first 7 games this year, I'm sure we would be over .500.  Right now he's only getting 7 mil a year. That is a steal for the type of productivity he brings to the game everynight. Why do some of you want to trade our best players? I know, you're going to say Ron will leave when his contract is up, but he won't if he feels he is wanted and paid accordingly. No lets sign Kwame Brown so he can stink it up like some of our other bigs like Kenny Thomas and Rahim.

Now if we can get good value out of Mike Bibby, I'm all for it. I am tired of watching the Kings live and die with bibby. He doesn't know when to stop shooting the ball when he is throwing up bricks on his jump shot. Take it to the hole, penetrate then dish. A PG should look to pass first, then shoot. Get everyone involved in the offense.

One problem I see with the team this year is to many isolation plays. We need to go back to moving the ball around and getting open looks. And when someone is on, keep feeding him the ball. We used to be great at that, now we're near the bottom of the league in assists per game.

I do think that there is not enough talk on the boards about  the Kings, but they also haven't given us much good to talk about until recently. 3-2 on our 5 game road trip is very promising. Tell me we would do better with Kwame then Artest, please

GO KINGS


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December 20, 2007 6:10 pm
I gave you a ten for your great argument, but here's the thing: Ron Artest doesn't fit into our future. We are rebuilding, and Ron doesn't deserve to be on a rebuilding team. He deserves $12 million a year, and he's not gonna get that from us. If we get Kwame Brown and Jarvis Crittenton, we get cap relief and another building block for the future. Keeping Ron around means less time for players to develop. We sign Ron to a new contract or an extention, he will be out of his prime and getting $12 million that we could have used for a young player. I'm just sayin'.


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December 20, 2007 6:12 pm
Oh yeah, those last few road games, there was great ball movement by Beno Udrih and Ron Artest. I loved it!


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December 21, 2007 11:42 am

Artest is still pretty young, he is 28 years old in his eighth season. His points per game and FG % has gone up every year in his career(except for 04-05 when he only player 7 games). So basically we got him in his prime, who can better tutor our young players. He is the most vocal person on our team- a leader, someone who will get in anothers face for missing assignments, but still takes the blame for his mistakes.

I do love Beno right now, I think he has a good future with the Kings. He makes some mistakes, but he is still young and should cut those down with more experience. Also, Brad Miller seems to have come back to life and put up some good numbers lately. John Salmons needs to be on the floor more, he reminds me of Scottie Pippen in a lot of ways.

I actually think we can pull out a respectable season if we can get K-Mart back. Pay Ron and we will be in the playoffs for many more years.


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December 21, 2007 5:59 pm

I agree with Cutlerfan, I think we should keep Ron Artest and give him the salary he deserves. Artest is a great player so why give him up. He prove his worth the pay on the court so why denied him of it. I also like the idea of trading Bibby. We got Beno Udrih now and he is doing a great job. Bibby gets 13,500,000 compare to Beno 561,000. That’s a big different in salary and their FG% is the same.


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December 21, 2007 6:14 pm
Ron Artest will want a max contract, and in a few years, he will be out of his prime. So, then we will have contract problems and less flexibility, limiting what we can do. So, would you rather have Artest out of his prime in a few years, or a young star with a higher ceiling that we can aquire without Artest.

On a sidethought, just let Artest win like he wants, isn't that what all players want? We won't be winning for a few year, it rebuilding time! Just let John Salmons take Ron's place. You do want to see him more, right cutlerfan?


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December 21, 2007 6:18 pm
Okay, let Ron Artest sign a max contract with us, it's not my choice. Keep in mind that we are just delaying having to rebuild if we do that.


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December 22, 2007 9:35 pm

I’m all for rebuilding the team but I would like to see how far Artest going to take us this year before we decide to trade him. A lot of talk about the playoff this year for the Kings and lots of people are laughing at us, even some of the fan which they are stupid to do so. They need to believe, I still do. I want Artest to keep his word and shut them up. We still have a chance of making the playoff even doe it’s a small one. I been watching the Lakers, Warriors and Trail Blazers game hoping they would lose so we can move up.


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December 23, 2007 12:54 am
Yeah, I think we have a chance, but a little one. Our team I would say is better than two years ago, but other teams have gotten better, too.


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December 24, 2007 7:48 pm

i don't know why they gave the ball to miller instead of salmons in last night game agianst denver. i mean miller play a good game but his free throw was kinda off that night. i thought we would of gone with salmons. O well it's not his fault, the game could of gone either way. hope we get the win next time.